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Date: 10-11-05 06:14
From: andrewro
Subject: Did maaco paint your daily driver? Weigh in with your experience!

Tomorrow an acquaintance's husband is looking over my 1972 2002 and giving me a preliminary paint estimate. Today, I checked with my local Maaco, just to see what they had to say. They said $399 plus $75 per doorjamb for the "presidential" paint job.

My car is in primer, and is partially block-sanded. The guy said he would not warrantee a car that Maaco does not prep. Regardless, I plan on finishing most of the prep before having it painted, no matter who paints it. I will have to pull the glass and have someone come out to put it in, or tow the car after painting to a glass company. I will buy my own seals and locking channel ahead of time.

So, Maaco, with the car mostly prepped, might be a good deal, or it might depend on my particular Maaco shop. This car will be a driver. I will be using the original, imperfect trim. I want something decent and pretty durable, without peel and runs, but it doesn't have to be a mile deep or anything. Those of you who've gone with Maaco before, let me know how things turned out!

Date: 10-11-05 06:21 From: andrewro Subject: Re: Did maaco paint your daily driver? Weigh in with your experience!
I should say that the guy said he wouldn't warantee a car that was already primed.

Date: 10-11-05 06:21 From: slx Subject: they did one of mine....
maaco painted a 74 for me in 87 and it still looks good today.....i've always keep it clean in the shade if i was on a budget, couldn't do it myself, i'd use maaco again....it's hard to beat the price

Date: 10-11-05 06:25 From: slx Subject: Re: Did maaco paint your daily driver? Weigh in with your experience!
that's because all the materials have to be compatible, best if it's all the same product line....his paint may have a reaction with your primer...starting from scratch, he knows what he has to work with

Date: 10-11-05 06:30 From: andrewro Subject: Don't know what primer is on the car, what's my next move?(nt)
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Date: 10-11-05 06:51 From: Sam Subject: they still have to sand so its actualy more work to sand it down go(nt)
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Date: 10-11-05 07:08 From: mikem Subject: I remember reading one guy's theory years ago
He said something like go to Maaco, get the mid-grade paint job, then find out who will be painting your car and provide several hundred $$ incentive to do a good job. You still end up under $1K.

Date: 10-11-05 07:12
From: MIKE
Subject: Re: Don't know what primer is on the car, what's my next move?(nt)

I think most macco shopes use Sherwin Williams. I would put a sealer on after you block it and let them prime it. I think that block sanding yourself is a good idea. I have had a few cars done at Macco, and they looked good and held up well. You are correct that it depends on the shope. The last one I used was not that good. 3 major runs. Check out the shope and find one that will work with you. I did what you are doing once on a ghia and it turned out great. Its all in the prep. Also, I got $1000 job on sale for 600- 5 coats of paint and 5 coats of clear with uv. Look for one on sale-check out there web page.

Date: 10-11-05 07:40
From: RIMSPOKE
Subject: THE WORD ON THE STREET IS ........

ASK THE MANAGEMANT WHO WILL BE PAINTING YOUR CAR .
TELL THEM I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE JOB WITH HIM .
SLIP HIM A $20 DOLLAR BILL WHILE YOU ARE DISCUSSING .
TELL HIM THERE WILL BE ANOTHER 20 BUCKS IF I LIKE WHAT
I SEE WHEN YOU ARE DONE .
THEY DON'T PAY THEM A LOT AND NO ONE EVER TIPS THEM SO
THIS MAKES AT LEAST A $200 IMPROVEMENT IN THE PAINTJOB .

LIKE SO MANY THINGS , I HAVE SEEN GOOD & BAD FROM MAACO .

Date: 10-11-05 08:22 From: TJ 69-02 Subject: Rimspoke is right.....
I do all my own prep work and let Maaco spray the car. I still pay the full price for there $199 paint job but 90% of a good paint job is in the prep work, any monkey can spray paint! By doing my own bodywork I basically show everyone that I know what Im doing and they treat me well. That, along with a couple 12 packs of beer and some Andrew Jacskon's you get a pretty kick ass paint job.

Date: 10-11-05 08:47
From: Shad
Subject: Did the same thing with my daily driver years ago...

I did almost exactly the same thing you describe. I prepped, they painted. They also didn't guanrantee anything due to the prep work being my own.

The car came out great for what I wanted: a shiny daily driver that, surprisingly got a lot of compliments. But if you looked very close (2ft away) you could see many imperfections due to my inexperience in body work where the rattle can primer and their paint didn't bond correctly...nobody but me it seemed noticed. The paint job held up for about six years before little rust bubbles in the usual places popped up, so currently the car is completely stripped bare and I'm doing it all myself this time.

For the price you can't beat it for a low budget daily driver where driving is more important than points at the show and shine...

-s

Date: 10-11-05 09:45
From: DukeRimmer
Subject: A Maaco gaurantee is worth much less than your

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mouldings. "Prep" to them means buzzing over the surface with a 6" power sander for maybe ten minutes. you're not paying them enough to hand sand the many areas the sander will not reach, and the tool digs into your valuable mouldings. If thier gauranteed paint begins to fall off, they take a few minutes to re squirt it. You end up with two layers of paint on all the hard to reach areas still not preped, plus ugly mouldings.
Remove the bolt on parts yourself. Solvent clean the surface yourself. Sand off ALL the paint gloss yourself, and forget the gaurantee. Brand names of undercoat don't matter much, just be sure it's dry.

Date: 10-12-05 01:38 From: tkent02 Subject: Painted my wife's old Bonneville, the doors, seats, windows, mirrors..
tires, door panels. Etc. Masking is not thier strong suit.

Date: 10-12-05 06:31 From: nf Subject: MY MAACO JOB FROM '99(nt)
(nt)

Date: 10-12-05 07:28
From: slx
Subject: DIY

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· 1qt. of the Activator for the Color

· 1gal. of 2k High build Urethane primer/sealer (buff or grey)

· 1qt. of the Activator for the Primer/Sealer

· 1gal. of Miraclear II Clear Coat

· 1qt. Activator for the clear

· 2qts. Urethane reducer

· 15 Paint sticks, & 15 Strainers

· 1 Spray Suit, & 1 Spray Sock

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· 6 Tack rags

· 3 count 1qt mixing cups , for hassle free mixing

· Instruction sheet for mixing all products
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Date: 10-12-05 12:50
From: Steve J
Subject: It's ALL in the prep work.

If you are detrimming and prepping, all they will have to do is shoot the color. Tell them you totally understand that they can not warranty any work they do that goes on top of your work. Let them know you wouldn't expect them to. I think if you and the shop can come to an agreement that al you need for them to do is shoot the color, then I think you should have a decent looking car when done.
Bat, as with all body and paint, it is all in the amount of time spent, usually with the prep work. If you want that wet as glass look 15 laquer coat paintjob, then be prepared to pay several thousand dollars. If you are in and out for $500, then be prepared to have a car that looks good, but you don't have to cringe if you drive down a gravel road.

I like the quote from Jay Leno- Restore it, show it, drive the heck out of it, repeat the process.

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