Samplemaven wrote:

Steve, the dash looks great. Is that a leather cover with white thread...or is it vinyl with white?

the above pics are vinyl with off white thread. i think it looks awesome but i dont have anything in my car to tie in the white. im going french seams in black thread. it wont jump out at you as much but should be a nice subtle touch
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I have 1973 and 1974 tiis. I'd be interested in one for each.

I have a one piece Tii and am interested in black with black thread. When will you submit the next batch?

Comments on covered dashes

1. Any local upholstrey shop can do this work it is not highly complicated. Use black stitching (looks better and straight) and keep foam padding to a minum or your windshield will be hard to mount

2. New OEM dashes for BMW are only about $1400 + shipping from Deutschland so you might find a more correct look and similar pricing... without reassembly issues

3. In general dash caps nicely mounted and trimmed provide 90% of the "relief" from canyon cracks at 1/50th of the effort and risk. For those who have removed their dash you also need to be careful not to ground out any instruments or wiper motors... easy to do and can add up to big $$

4. Buying completed dashes good but if you have to send a core in to get new then your car open for quite awhile

5. Lastly don't know how a one piece dash can be wrapped... how do you get stitching to line up ? The 3 piece really best maybe 2 piece to wrap ? Once piece ?


Good luck with it ! We wrap these dashes for alot less then $1500 for our customers in leather and they turn out nice but be preppared to work hard to remount and fit everything. We can sell completed dashes all day long for $600 + the core if we don't have to install them. Installing them the hard part :)

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PS pics of one of our in Schwartz Tii we built
http://picasaweb.google.com/jkirk225/BlackBMW2002Tii#5422708226641752082

442stang wrote:

Comments on covered dashes 1. Any local upholstrey shop can do this work it is not highly complicated. Use black stitching (looks better and straight) and keep foam padding to a minum or your windshield will be hard to mount 2. New OEM dashes for BMW are only about $1400 + shipping from Deutschland so you might find a more correct look and similar pricing... without reassembly issues 3. In general dash caps nicely mounted and trimmed provide 90% of the "relief" from canyon cracks at 1/50th of the effort and risk. For those who have removed their dash you also need to be careful not to ground out any instruments or wiper motors... easy to do and can add up to big $$ 4. Buying completed dashes good but if you have to send a core in to get new then your car open for quite awhile 5. Lastly don't know how a one piece dash can be wrapped... how do you get stitching to line up ? The 3 piece really best maybe 2 piece to wrap ? Once piece ? Good luck with it ! We wrap these dashes for alot less then $1500 for our customers in leather and they turn out nice but be preppared to work hard to remount and fit everything. We can sell completed dashes all day long for $600 + the core if we don't have to install them. Installing them the hard part :) Cheers Jon SelectClassics.com PS pics of one of our in Schwartz Tii we built http://picasaweb.google.com/jkirk225/BlackBMW2002Tii#5422708226641752082

Lets see one of your dashes mounted in a car you did.
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I put a link to the pictures of the Black Tii we put the leather dash in. Have done several will dig out some additional pics and put at the site

http://picasaweb.google.com/jkirk225/BlackBMW2002Tii#5422708226641752082

Will also post on our website when have time

I would post here but to be honest have never had time to figure out how to put pics on this board ? Will try again here

IMHO, the quality just is'nt the same. The stitching is'nt narly as straight and the overlap of the stitches is unsightly. There also seems to be a big hump smack dab in the middle.

Also, it's pretty bad for you to pitch your product in someone else's post. Don't be shy, make your own.

Members will/can make a decision as to which one they want.
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Really not pitching any product ! Actually trying to inform about the level of extra effort to install covered dashes and discourage use - unless you fully sign up to the level of effort. If you order a dash from a far off land and don't realize the extra size will probably impact getting glass back in you will not be happy.

Also most don't realize BMW started making new dashes recently and probably a better choice in my opinion at $1500

We don't just sell parts but use all the parts we build, buy etc. in building many of these vehicles.

Quality of the dash is quite good it is leather not vinyl and leather always has a more natual look then vinyl. Also black sticking is pretty straight on these and based on experience t is the white stitching that shows any inperfection thus would not recommend it. I would challenge you to look closely at the white stiching and see if it is straight ?

Good luck

Good luck

442stang wrote:

Really not pitching any product ! Actually trying to inform about the level of extra effort to install covered dashes and discourage use - unless you fully sign up to the level of effort. If you order a dash from a far off land and don't realize the extra size will probably impact getting glass back in you will not be happy. Also most don't realize BMW started making new dashes recently and probably a better choice in my opinion at $1500 We don't just sell parts but use all the parts we build, buy etc. in building many of these vehicles. Quality of the dash is quite good it is leather not vinyl and leather always has a more natual look then vinyl. Also black sticking is pretty straight on these and based on experience t is the white stitching that shows any inperfection thus would not recommend it. I would challenge you to look closely at the white stiching and see if it is straight ? Good luck Good luck

please post close up photos of your completed dash. the pictures you posted look less than desirable but perhaps its the angles making them look uneven and hacked. i welcome competition .. its what makes a better product.. and in a lot of cases high quality vinyl is a better choice than leather and i challenge you to even tell the difference. have you seen late model BMW vinyl??
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Blunt:

Don't consider us competition as our post was simply for the common good - including you - that a padded dash can be a good idea but extra thickness does cause install problems. You have to use foam to get a smooth surface from the old vinyl thus no way around not having a thicker dash. Since we install all the stuff we see these areas of challenges and just passing it on. We will sell kits on request to do a complete car or complete section of a car that has been tested and works on the many full cars we rebuild (AC, interior, suspension, rebuit engines, even wheel and tire packages)

The dashes we do for clients end up being very close to a leather dash in a M series car which is our target look. We generally don't stitch as tight as the OEM dashes but leather very close to that look. We could stitch tight on a 3 piece dash but more $$$

Vinyl is good... we use European vinyl in all of our interior seat and door panel projects and like the perforated vinyl more then leather for seats. For a dash pad my preference would be a simple dash cap over vinyl wrap and a whole lot less work... I think. If I go to trouble of removing dash then leather or new dash !

My other post for the common good was - what I called you about - that BMW now makes new vinyl dashes for about $1400. Most of our customer prefer the original look unless doing a custom car... like the black one is in the pics I posted

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thanks jon, i would still like to see close up of your dash details. my business is not dashes, its parts. this is merely something i put together because i know chris willett does excellent work at a fair price and i want a recovered 3 piece dash for my car. . if you have a better product and a more favorable price id like to see that also. the link you posted of the black tii really doesnt show in detail the quality of the work like the below pictures do. if you can provide a better product at a better price i would like the FAQ members to know about it. lets see some close up detailed pics jon below is a 1 piece dash in vinyl




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Nice stuff Steve.
As much as I hate to say it I think Jon is correct, I think you might run into some issues with the padding as the tollerences fitting the dashes is alot tougher than you would think. I have done several of these and tried padding once and I was not pleased. As for the leather it is tougher to streach and the vinyl seems to work better. As for the pictures of Jons I think more pics are in order as the one he posted does not look so hot.
Also as I am sure you know the 1 piece is also difficult although I have managed to complete a few just took a few times to get it right.
I have sold a few of mine on the board but once I noticed you were doing yours I stopped posting here as I dont want to step on anyones feet.
I have moved on to some CS stuff and will be selling my inventory on Ebay. Best of luck and keep up the awesome work you do helping out this board.
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As for the white stiching some like the look some dont. With that being said it is more difficult to do the white over the black as it does stand out more and in turn your white stiches need to be perfect to achive the correct look.
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I have a black leather dash being recovered with black stitching and am anxious to see how it comes out. I'm also having the console being covered at the same time to match the dash.

As my windshield is out of the car, I don't think I'll be running into some of the istallation issues mentioned here.

I'll post pictures when my dash arrives and we'll see how everything comes out. I'm still confident the dash that I've ordered will come out looking great and will be a nice addition to my car.
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To be clear it is getting the front glass back in correctly that is the challenge. There are not alot of really good glass guys left around that like to do this work and are good at putting in compression fittings

What happens is the lower part of the windshield does not sit low enough which then causes the windshield seal to not pull in as it is designed to. You can spend along time pushing on windshield, lubricating lock strip etc. and still not get it right... or break windshield

Even getting the lock strip does not cure this and you end up with a windshield not set and potentially unsafe

We solved this problem after breaking a few windshields but all came down to the talent of the glass installer and designing our dashes differently !

SelectClassics was founded to put these cars on the road with quality at a reasonable price built to customer requests. Our focus is on the professional re-manufacturing of cars thus we spend time designing this stuff so it works - for us and only on request will sell kits to others. As with many aspects of a quality product the parts are often the easy part - I only entered into this discussion as a high $ dash that would be difficult to install and potentially probablatic and or even unsafe if glass not installed correctly I thought was worth sharing.

When time permits try to share some of these insights as we have picked up similar insights from some of the quality posts on the faq.

Wish you ALL the best selling your parts and those installing... take this as you wish

PS Will post more pics of the leather dashes we have done and they do look great ... don't have any of the imagined inperfections posted here. Without advertising for sale several of the local BMW 2002 group came to see our operation and saw the black Tii in production with the leather dash and have requested we do their dashes the same so must not be to bad :)
Recovering dash much easier then installation thus I would have person installing do the recovering !!!

442stang wrote:

To be clear it is getting the front glass back in correctly that is the challenge. There are not alot of really good glass guys left around that like to do this work and are good at putting in compression fittings What happens is the lower part of the windshield does not sit low enough which then causes the windshield seal to not pull in as it is designed to. You can spend along time pushing on windshield, lubricating lock strip etc. and still not get it right... or break windshield Even getting the lock strip does not cure this and you end up with a windshield not set and potentially unsafe We solved this problem after breaking a few windshields but all came down to the talent of the glass installer and designing our dashes differently ! SelectClassics was founded to put these cars on the road with quality at a reasonable price built to customer requests. Our focus is on the professional re-manufacturing of cars thus we spend time designing this stuff so it works - for us and only on request will sell kits to others. As with many aspects of a quality product the parts are often the easy part - I only entered into this discussion as a high $ dash that would be difficult to install and potentially probablatic and or even unsafe if glass not installed correctly I thought was worth sharing. When time permits try to share some of these insights as we have picked up similar insights from some of the quality posts on the faq. Wish you ALL the best selling your parts and those installing... take this as you wish PS Will post more pics of the leather dashes we have done and they do look great ... don't have any of the imagined inperfections posted here. Without advertising for sale several of the local BMW 2002 group came to see our operation and saw the black Tii in production with the leather dash and have requested we do their dashes the same so must not be to bad :) Recovering dash much easier then installation thus I would have person installing do the recovering !!!

jon, please get the hell out of my thread. your idiotic ramblings make you look like a fool. your companies reputation precedes you. chris willett has done a bunch of these dashes and has an excellent reputation in the 02 world, much better in fact than you do. quit trying to rile participating members up about something you clearly know nothing about. you have no clue how these dashes are prepared or covered or how they will fit once completed. to come in here and claim they wont fit and are unsafe makes you look like an idiot.
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hplug wrote:

I have sold a few of mine on the board but once I noticed you were doing yours I stopped posting here as I dont want to step on anyones feet.

I dont think you would be stepping on someone elses foot for simply offering an alternative. This is a public forum and not someones personal store front. I urge you to start your own thread and offer your product. That will allow others to be educated and decide where to go.
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Armond wrote:

hplug wrote: I have sold a few of mine on the board but once I noticed you were doing yours I stopped posting here as I dont want to step on anyones feet. I dont think you would be stepping on someone elses foot for simply offering an alternative. This is a public forum and not someones personal store front. I urge you to start your own thread and offer your product. That will allow others to be educated and decide where to go.

i agree wholeheartedly. i have no financial interest in these dashes. i merely put the buy together because i wanted my dash done and chris offered me a discounted rate for doing so. i believe it is a good product or i wouldnt put it in my car. competition is a good thing. if you do something better you deserve the business.
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I dont think it's neccessary to explain yourself here Steve. You already have good following and you've earned the trust of being fair.
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Blunt:


My apologies if I hit a nerve as clearly not trying to critisize your post or your work but your post was about "gauging interest" ! My posts are only meant for the uninformed trying to install... I guess that is not of interest to you as in selling parts you don't have to install them... just sell them.

AS for my comments if you READ them they do not speak specifically to your product or Chris' product they speak specifically to OUR experience of installing ANY dash thicker then the original. It is simple logic if you cover a dash it has to have a layer of foam to make it smooth then another level of vinyl or leather ... thus thicker.

As for our experience and I am quite certain in building dozens of these vehicles we have a bit of insight to what it really takes to install the part not just buy it ! Let the readers make up their mind no nead for your venom

As for Chris at only02 we have probably purchased 30 carpet sets from him and know him well. He does a quality job and I am sure his dashes are as well done - but that does not change the "watch out" on safety of using a padded dash when installing the front windshield. Maybe Chris can speak to what they have done to minimize or ellimnate the thickness

One of the dashes we did we actually removed all the original foam to make is fit correctly ????

Last time I checked with is an faq on sharing insights on 2002's not a commercial shopping cart.

442stang wrote:

Last time I checked with is an faq on sharing insights on 2002's not a commercial shopping cart.

Uh Jon, this is the "parts for sale" section.

BTW, I helped install a "covered" dash and it did'nt take any more effort than a standard dash. When installed with a FACTORY seal, the dash fit just fine.


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442stang wrote:

Comments on covered dashes PS pics of one of our in Schwartz Tii we built http://picasaweb.google.com/jkirk225/BlackBMW2002Tii#5422708226641752082

Hmm..that does not look like the same quality...and that does not look like a Tii...

Thanks for an alternative though. I suggest you post your own topic, provide pics, and pricing...let the consumer decide.
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No updates in over a month?? Let's see some pics of those restored dashes installed.

I'm still debating redoing my dash and would like to see pics with black seams.

bobaustin wrote:

No updates in over a month?? Let's see some pics of those restored dashes installed. I'm still debating redoing my dash and would like to see pics with black seams.

+ 1......

Ill see if i cant round up some completed dash pics... 6 are done but not everyone has them in the car yet
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BLUNT wrote:

Ill see if i cant round up some completed dash pics... 6 are done but not everyone has them in the car yet

morning S!


if any did blk stitching id love to see a few?...


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