That's one tidy Golf coloured, late model tii.
At an ask of $10k ( or less if you can swing it ), it doesn't seem unreasonable with all checked over and hunky dory. Including the low mileage rebuilt engine, Bilsteins on the rear, a better steering wheel, no cracks in the dash ( what's under the furry seat covers)..........
what heck are you waiting for - written permission :-)
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cheers
Richard
1972 2002 tii in golf yellow

I hope that you recognize almost perfect more often!

Buy it.

... or the next guy will find it worth the price.


Well, drive it first.

Looks quite nice from here.

Cheers,

Ray
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'73 ///M2 2.5
'84 ///M635CSi

No VIN and motor number - no advice !

and

massive YELLOW re-spray - means coverup in many cases

and please !- WOOLY-BEAR seat covers means
clapped out seats lurk underneath

if the car is on a lift
some well lit photos under the car,
and inside wheel wells will help us help
you hold on to your money

Chat again when you have VIN and motor numbers



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1976 BMW 2002 #2743711(sorry I sold it 12/25/06)
1986 BMW R65 650cc twin 19k miles
1964 BMW R27 250cc single 15K miles
2002 BMW 325xiTouring 29k miles
1984 MERCEDES-BENZ W123 300D Turbodiesel-188k miles fein-DIESEL

C.D. all great and valid points you suggest.

Seeing mediocre 2002 go for 22k at Amelia Island, and the quality of some workmanship I've seen recently,IF the rebuids are fact............

Get a local guru to give it a once over,or pay an independent then....

Go for it of course negociate as best as you are able.

Just my thoughts

Jonathan
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1972 2002 tii #2761572 Inka May 4,1972 13x6 Superlites bilsteins,Momo prototipo ,Coco Mats,,Old Man Style "Patina"....
2007 GTI 200hp 207 tq DSG trans.Daily driver.
2007 Vespa LX50 City Transpo

Everything c.d. says.

And drive it. Does it pull to one side or the other? Does it make weird noises when changing gears? Is there smoke? Do the brakes work? When was the brake fluid, oil, diff fluid, tranny fluid, radiator fluid changed last? How old are the hoses and belts? And the brake lines? Rubber or stainless brake lines? Does the Behr A/C work? Any receipts for any of the motor/driveline work?

Looks nice so far, but you still need to find some more stuff out.

Ken
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'73 2002, Fjord - "Deuce"
'04 330i, Titanium - "Smith"

This car LOOKS very nice. The key is your "trust" of the current owner. Body guys as sellers scare me because they can cover up so many flaws with bondo and a good paint job and/or spray on undercoating. If this car is really solid, the seller won't mind you giving it a serious rust inspection. Rust is the supreme killer of these unibodies.

Here's where I"d look:
(1) in the firewall and inner rocker panels where the fenders attach,
(2) the front passanger floor pans and fire wall, both sides,
(3) pull the back seat (both bottom and back) and inspect the floor around the subframe bolts and the shock towers. The shock towers should also be solid on the trunk side,
(4) the spare tire well and the floor pan support for the gas tank (have to get under the car).
(5) Inside the trunk around the bolts where the rear bumper attaches.
If any of these areas have fresh paint or fresh undercoating, I'd re-consider the car or drop my offer significantly. Good luck,
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Roger
'72 Malaga

Everything else is getting to know your car.

Looks like a nice Golf square light tii.

Being in CA, you have access to some of the best tii fellows to help you tune your tii. Jack F, Rob Torres, Carl Nelson and others are the best at tuning tiis so your in the right place.

I want you to pay $20k so the value of our cars will continue to go up, but $10k seems to be a fair starting point if there are no lurking gremlins.
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1972 2000tii Touring
1972 2002tii with A4 system
1972 2002tii found a motor
16' Mad River

this is the point where things start to become emotional, and reason gets short circuited with so many thoughts, if's and opinions.

First of all, it looks like a very nice restored tii, a rare find. If the pictures look as good as the car, $10k is not unreasonable today. It looks like a very nice shop and also and it is a California car. What is your gut feel about the sellers?

Obviously, you have to drive it in order to make sure there are no mechanical problems. Take it 80 mph, you already own a Porsche, you know what a sports car should feel like. It should purr between 4 and 6, shift precisely, feel very smooth, agile, fast and responsive. Above all, by the time you are done, you should have a big grin. Now, "If there is a doubt, then there is no doubt"

I would also check the electrical, make sure all lights work, and the heater fan is operating correctly.

The hard part is establishing a price, usually it is the seller that does that, and the buyer negotiates. Bare in mind that sellers are emotional with cars too, sometimes money is not a factor, but finding the right seller that will continue to take care of the car is. If you can get it for one dollar, by all means, but how realistic is that? What is a fair price? What else with the same performance and looks can you get for the same amount? Can you get something better for $10k? 8k? 6K and so on... Lastly don't use Porsches as a gage, that's a different market altogether.
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72 tii A4, 72 tii Alpina, 98 M3 coupe

Don't argue with anyone that will not consider the possibility of being wrong...
the future is a dream, the present infinitesimally brief, but the memories are forever...

Thanks so much for the info I've received so far. In answer to a few of the different posts, the mechanic isn't a body guy. He actually is the mechanic who does engine work on my Porsche. He has all of the receipts for the 2002 at the shop, because he was the one who worked on it. He says he has documentation of what he's done dating back 14-15 years. The owners manual is in the glove box, and documents all of the services. I haven't met the seller yet; however, I told the mechanic I've been doing a ton of research, and I thought the car was more likely worth somewhere in the 10-12 range. So, he said he'd brace the seller so she doesn't expect me to offer her asking price of $16,000. They are tuning her up right now, so it should be ready for a test drive Monday or Tuesday. I realize the Porsche and the BMW are two different beasts, so I definitaly am not going to compare them. I just want both of them. haha. The engine number is 2781849+, if that can help with any info. Like I said before, the vin will come on Monday. Here are a few additional pictures if they can help the pros(thats you guys) give me more on the low down. I really do appreciate the help. Thanks!

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Newbie

Im not trying to weasel my way into your deal. But, if you decide to not to buy this car, I'd be interested in looking at it. I live in Sacto which would only be a short drive for me. Should you decide to pass please send me an email with your contact info.

You can not take a much lesser car and make it that good for $16k
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1972 2000tii Touring
1972 2002tii with A4 system
1972 2002tii found a motor
16' Mad River

Well, typically your engine number is the same as the car's VIN.

If your block says 278... that IS a valid 74 Tii vin number. As long as the body matches that same number you just provided it is indeed a US spec 74Tii.

Nice car and rare-ish color. Looks to be in great shape. $10-$12k definitely worth it if all of the mechanicals check out and there is really no rust.

You would spend double that to restore a lesser one. Trust me. A few of us on here have done it several times over so we know what we are talking about. I did a 72Tii back just after 2000 and I spent more back then and the price of parts was CHEAP compared to now!

Good luck. Just do your research like you have been doing, test it out and check out the body really well.

If you buy it the rest can be sorted out here with your new friends :)

Looks like the front clip was replaced at some time. It has a non tii nose.

T.R.
'72 polaris 2000tii touring
'72 inka 2002

For what it's worth, here's the NADA guide price. There's been some discussion on the board regarding NADA's estimate of worth. It's jumped dramatically in the last year or two. I don't know how they figure these prices, presumably it's based partly on documented past sales.

http://www.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-22-1-5013-0-0-0&l=1&w=22&p=1&f=5014&y=1974&m=1026&d=1481&c=7&vi=62472&z=64151&da=1
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John Capoccia
Sierra Madre, CA
'70 Granada megasquirt, 5 spd, 3:91
'74 Golf tii stock

THE GOOD NEWS IS the motor number
you provided ( 2781849) IS a tii , and if the VIN
on the steering column matches - pay what you
feel comfortible with - ONLY after driving it from
very cold start, warm-up period, and long enough
(highway, then sit and idle for long periods) to
see all that your getting. Now is the time to prevent
and avoid surprises. Not when you get it home in the garage !

1974 2002 tii (USA) VIN range = 2780001 - 2782928

NOW - also bare in mind those WOLLY-BEAR-SEATS !!??
Lift off those covers and sit in the seats before you buy.
new or like-new seats fitting a nice tii willbe 600 to $2000
Figure that into your purchase price offer, and all the other
incidentals like tires, shocks, hoses, fuel hoses, radiator, water pump...

keep us posted


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1976 BMW 2002 #2743711(sorry I sold it 12/25/06)
1986 BMW R65 650cc twin 19k miles
1964 BMW R27 250cc single 15K miles
2002 BMW 325xiTouring 29k miles
1984 MERCEDES-BENZ W123 300D Turbodiesel-188k miles fein-DIESEL

Thanks for the insight. I took a good look underneath the front seat covers and they appear brand new.. The back seat doesn't have any cover, and it looks like it has never been sat on. Interior wise, it seriously looks near perfect. On the outside, the only flaw I could find was a little(and I mean little) ding on one of the chrome peices on the passenger door chrome. Other than that it looks like a brand new car. Thats the reason my wife likes it so much. My Porsche, although very nice, has a few more flaws. I will use all of your advice on the test drive. Thanks for the help.