Come on Richard, we have had two carrier battle groups in that area off and on for years...and how about giving the folks in uniform a bit more credit....

Earl
US Army Retired

Israel is a Democracy ??? The US gives 5 Billion in support a year. Palestenians are not allowed to vote.... The west bank is occupied territory as is IRAQ.US says to the palestinians elect a government under democracy. They elect Hamas. Israel and the US says their terrorists even though elected by democratic process and refuse to recognize them even though they were elected under democratic process. Georgie read up on being a Zionist. There is no room for anyone that is not a Zionist..... As to the second post: I have nothing but respect and admiration for our armed services. The President is a liar again and again and puts our soldiers in harms way for God Knows What>>>>>>

Yes, it are the jews who are behind all this. In fact, the Mossad runs Al-Queida and Sharon himself ordered the WTC attack. Even here in the Netherlands, Mohammed B., the guy who murdered filmmaker Theo van Gogh, is a jew disguised as a Moroccan muslim terrorist.
I read an article the other day stating that the jews are the evil geniuses behind the Holocaust.
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I spoke facts.... The US gives Israel 5 billion a year. Palestinians in Israel can never be citizens... Civil rights are non existent.People have been held and tortured for years(apartheid) with no communication with family or lawyers. People are picked up by the police and are never seen again. (apartheid) A democratically elected government has no power as Israel and the US dont like who was elected... Millions of people live below third world levels. What a democracy we get for 5 billion...... These are all confirmed facts. These facts are available not from blogs but human rights organisations. Amnesty International...Must be jew haters and nazis tooo. Stick to your prejudice schwienfart.Remember the extra carrier battle group includes at least 2 nuclear subs and 40 support vessels run by a president that has no concept of reality......SLEEP WELL????

Hey Richard, what did Iran do TODAY that pissed off the US ( and has large ramnifications for our economy).

Just a question for you before line your house with tinfoil and loose your internet connection.
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Richard wrote:

I spoke facts.... The US gives Israel 5 billion a year. Palestinians in Israel can never be citizens... Civil rights are non existent.People have been held and tortured for years(apartheid) with no communication with family or lawyers. People are picked up by the police and are never seen again. (apartheid) A democratically elected government has no power as Israel and the US dont like who was elected... Millions of people live below third world levels. What a democracy we get for 5 billion...... These are all confirmed facts. These facts are available not from blogs but human rights organisations. Amnesty International...Must be jew haters and nazis tooo. Stick to your prejudice schwienfart.Remember the extra carrier battle group includes at least 2 nuclear subs and 40 support vessels run by a president that has no concept of reality......SLEEP WELL????

Top recipients of U.S. aid
Iraq - In 2004, it will become the largest recipient of US aid, receiving $18.4 billion.
Israel - The largest recipient of U.S. largesse in 2003, getting $2.1 billion in military aid annually; $600 million in economic aid.
Egypt - Out of a U.S. foreign aid budget of about $14 billion in 2003, Egypt was the second largest recipient with $1.3 billion in military aid; $615 million for social programs.
Colombia - Got $540 million to battle the drug trade, and local terrorist groups.
Jordan - Got $250 million in economic support; $198 in military financing.
Peru, Ukraine, Russia - Received approximately $200 million each in economic and military aid annually.
Source: COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS

Aid is central to Washington's relationship with Cairo. The U.S. has provided Egypt with $1.3 billion a year in military aid since 1979, and an average of $815 million a year in economic assistance. All told, Egypt has received over $50 billion in US largesse since 1975.

So elect Hillary so she can obliterate Iran.

Pinepig wrote:

Hey Richard, what did Iran do TODAY that pissed off the US ( and has large ramnifications for our economy). Just a question for you before line your house with tinfoil and loose your internet connection.

what? i missed it, i'm under the weather.
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They quit using dollars for oil completely, you want to buy oil from Iran it's Euros or Yen

Ask Sadam how well that worked out for him when he did that.
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the dollar is going up in value starting about the end of the third qtr this year.
and oil is going down down down.
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First I would like to say that I would rather not talk politics But, I must add……

I can't say I remember Bush going anywhere for whatever reason…

Bush took us into the next Vietnam, not to include (Biblical wars) solely because some Asshole took a shot at his old man. Revenge…. (let’s remember we have never declared War. It is only a conflict)… We haven’t had a War since World War II. (Including Korean, Vietnam).

Do you think we could have not have had Bin Laden? Clinton could have had Bin Laden. Our own CIA and Seals could have Bin Laden. (it only takes one crack team).
Fuck Bush, He didn’t even play a factor at that time.

Remember Ten years ago when Ben Laden tried to take out our towers. And only blew up the basement. (Think back).

We are weak and allowed it to happen years later.
I have a high regard for our troops (they are the innocent ones here) as we have had, and had, an Asshole for a Commander in Chief for a long time. (Politics)…

If only he would grab his balls, instead of selling us out, We may stand a chance.

They own too many conglomerate corporations that profit from the war. (Why do you think he has Chaney as a partner) heeds advise from his Father.

Listen America, Its time to feed the pig. Screw the big conglomerate.

Bring our Boys home and lets invest in America for Seven years. (That’s all I ask, Seven years) and lets see what happens to the U.S. when we invest in our own future.

Signed a Veteran…..

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html


Total Imports of Petroleum (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Feb-08 Jan-08 YTD 2008 Feb-07 YTD 2007
CANADA 2,464 2,586 2,527 2,448 2,460
SAUDI ARABIA 1,627 1,503 1,563 1,207 1,394
MEXICO 1,327 1,307 1,317 1,507 1,538
VENEZUELA 1,131 1,290 1,214 1,359 1,273
NIGERIA 1,025 1,191 1,110 1,102 1,120
IRAQ 780 543 658 325 433
RUSSIA 451 392 421 241 297
ALGERIA 384 636 514 555 672
VIRGIN ISLANDS 351 380 366 312 371
ANGOLA 350 578 468 464 522
KUWAIT 266 239 252 168 170
COLOMBIA 240 198 218 85 118
ECUADOR 186 260 224 185 231
BRAZIL 172 225 200 151 203
BELGIUM 164 115 139 53 60

Note: The data in the tables above exclude oil imports into the U.S. territories.

I get my gas from Iranians who take dollars, as I buy it at the local Arco which is owned by Persian Jews. I get dinner from Iranians who take dollars, as I eat dinner at a restaurant owned by Persian Muslims. Funny how all these decent Persians live in Los Angeles and not Iran -- they must know something.

Governments have been the bane of people since the beginning of time.

Thomas Jefferson has some food for thought . . .

"History, in general, only informs us what bad government is." --Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 1807. ME 11:223

"I sincerely wish you may find it convenient to come here [to Europe]. The pleasure of the trip will be less than you expect, but the utility greater. It will make you adore your own country, its soil, its climate, its equality, liberty, laws, people and manners. My God! how little do my countrymen know what precious blessings they are in possession of, and which no other people on earth enjoy. I confess I had no idea of it myself. While we shall see multiplied instances of Europeans going to live in America, I will venture to say no man now living will ever see an instance of an American removing to settle in Europe and continuing there. Come then and see the proofs of this, and on your return add your testimony to that of every thinking American, in order to satisfy our countrymen how much it is their interest to preserve uninfected by contagion those peculiarities in their government and manners to which they are indebted for these blessings." --Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1785. ME 5:21, Papers 8:233

"Though there is less wealth [in my native country than in Europe], there is more freedom, more ease, and less misery." --Thomas Jefferson to Baron Geismer, 1785. ME 5:129, Papers 8:500

"While the great mass of the people [in Europe] are thus suffering under physical and moral oppression, I have endeavored to examine more nearly the condition of the great, to appreciate the true value of the circumstances in their situation which dazzle the bulk of spectators, and especially to compare it with that degree of happiness which is enjoyed in America by every class of people. Intrigues of love occupy the younger, and those of ambition, the elder part of the great. Conjugal love having no existence among them, domestic happiness, of which that is the basis, is utterly unknown. In lieu of this are substituted pursuits which nourish and invigorate all our bad passions, and which offer only moments of ecstasy amidst days and months of restlessness and torment. Much, very much inferior this to the tranquil permanent felicity with which domestic society in America blesses most of its inhabitants, leaving them to follow steadily those pursuits which health and reason approve, and rendering truly delicious the intervals of these pursuits." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Bellini, 1785. ME 5:152, Papers 8:568

"First I would like to say that I would rather not talk politics But, I must add……"

We all should talk politics every day of our life

"I can't say I remember Bush going anywhere for whatever reason…"

Google will refresh your memory.

"Bush took us into the next Vietnam, not to include (Biblical wars) solely because some Asshole took a shot at his old man. Revenge…. (let’s remember we have never declared War. It is only a conflict)… We haven’t had a War since World War II. (Including Korean, Vietnam)."

Where's the beef? Document your allegations.

"Do you think we could have not have had Bin Laden? Clinton could have had Bin Laden. Our own CIA and Seals could have Bin Laden. (it only takes one crack team).
Fuck Bush, He didn’t even play a factor at that time."

Clinton could have had Bin Laden, but it was easier to have Waco.

"Remember Ten years ago when Ben Laden tried to take out our towers. And only blew up the basement. (Think back)."

Actually it was over 15 years ago. What's your point here?

"We are weak and allowed it to happen years later.
I have a high regard for our troops (they are the innocent ones here) as we have had, and had, an Asshole for a Commander in Chief for a long time. (Politics)…"

No, you are weak and you allowed it to happen. I have a low regard for our troops as they exhibit poor rifle marksmanship skills every time I see 'em on TV. Ever notice how many US troops are packing AK-47 rifles instead of M4s? I believe that only one type of brass on the scene of a firefight makes their lives easier as they don't have to explain anything.

"If only he would grab his balls, instead of selling us out, We may stand a chance.

They own too many conglomerate corporations that profit from the war. (Why do you think he has Chaney as a partner) heeds advise from his Father."

We have met the "They" and they is everyone in this nation including you if you own any stock or funds or fly or eat or breath. Ralph Nader doesn't hate Cheney so much that he'd dump his Halliburton stock and the money he makes by owning such stock. Just about everyone I know owns Haliburton stock, no matter how anti-Bush or anti-war they are.

"Listen America, Its time to feed the pig. Screw the big conglomerate."

Well, what are your solutions to these problems and what are you going to do about it? The only one you can count on is yourself, and if you don't do anything nothing gets done. The masses are so dumb it's not worth the energy to try and get them to think about anything at all, so do it yourself and soon you bump into others doing it themselves and then you've got a movement.

"Bring our Boys home and lets invest in America for Seven years. (That’s all I ask, Seven years) and lets see what happens to the U.S. when we invest in our own future.

Signed a Veteran….."

So here's your plan for yourself, and don't worry about the rest of us. We have to do ourselves too.

Richard wrote:

And the guy in charge has been lying to the American Public for years......

they all lie, especially obama. rational people expect elected officials to lie. the issue is YOUR perspective and what you do with all the information available to you.

the mindless youth who support obama WANT to be led down the garden path by this man because he validates thier callow, ignorant world view. believing his lies puts you in the 'in' crowd.

the mindless, terrified sheep that made up the american populace in 2002 wanted 'safety' from international terrorism and bush played up to this. his lies were a transparent justification to actuate his far more deadly decision to 'pre-empt' terror, in his 'global war on terrorism'. pre-emptive war is always unjust, and against the tradition of liberty in this country.

bottom line- IF YOU BOUGHT HIS LIES IN 2002 TO SUPPORT INVADING IRAQ, YOU ARE AS MUCH TO BLAME FOR THE DEBACLE AS RUMSFELD HIMSELF.

if you want to restore america to the moral high ground, find a president (or any politician) who will revoke this policy. good luck- the stupid, fucking mindless sheep that make up the populace of this country are still sniveling about safety. they will get the leaders they deserve.

robert w.

Hmmm, a simple conjecture sparks a wealth of knowledge and opinions...good stuff.
Gwb: can you explain your economic prognostications?...I'm intrigued.
F1: I like your posts a lot, but I think we should care about getting people to stop being so ignorant. Apathy is a dreadful thing.
As to war with Iran, only time will tell. And there aint a damn thing we can do to stop it if it goes that way, God forbid.
-Ben

Benz02 wrote:

Hmmm, a simple conjecture sparks a wealth of knowledge and opinions...good stuff. Gwb: can you explain your economic prognostications?...I'm intrigued. F1: I like your posts a lot, but I think we should care about getting people to stop being so ignorant. Apathy is a dreadful thing. As to war with Iran, only time will tell. And there aint a damn thing we can do to stop it if it goes that way, God forbid. -Ben

disclaimer: this is solely my opinion and is not to be taken as financial advice from me or my employer.

the fed wins, always. cheap money will make the economy grow.
as demand for capital increases, interest rates inevitably will rise, which will cause the value of the dollar to rise. oil and the dollar are currently joined at the hip, and a strengthening dollar will allow oil to drop. current demand/supply today suggests oil at $70.
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