CONGRATS. sounds very much like the car im building. basically stock looking with a/c and a fairly stock s14. can we see more pics of what youve got so far? im maybe 10 hours from driving mine which has been a 3 1/2 year project
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Sounds very similar, I'd love to see some pictures of your project. What did you do in terms of brakes and suspension?
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BMW 135i

The car looks really and Im always interested to see people do the s14 swap.

You said your wheels are rotas and I looked them up and saw that they come in 15x7s. Is that the size you have and if so do you have any problems with them rubbing?

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2002 Subaru Impreza 2.5 rs

Yes, they are 15 x 7 and we have rolled the fender lips to aid in clearance. Also, going with Ireland suspension components to aid the set up, camber plates and some other tweaks will keep the tires under the fenders.
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BMW 135i

Are you planning a coilover suspension setup from Ireland? Or a spring/shock combo?

It's a good looking car, already, too!
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fazeShift wrote:

Are you planning a coilover suspension setup from Ireland? Or a spring/shock combo? It's a good looking car, already, too!

Thank you for the positive comments. We are doing the Ireland Stage 2 combination of Bilstiens HD's with the Sport stage 2 springs, Urethane bushings, fixed camber plates (that we will slot), custom shock tower brace in front and rear, 22mm sway bar up front and 19mm sway bar in the rear, again from Ireland.

Brakes: Master cylinder from a BMW 750, Massive Brakes set up in the front and rear.

Wheel, Rota.......tires: New Yokohama S.Drive tires. (F) 195-50-15, (R) 205-50-15.

Currently I am driving the car with just the front brakes done and the rear drums, Bilstiens and wheels and tires.......OH MY GOD does this car stop. I can't wait to finish the suspension and brakes. I've driven three or four 2002's, this car is really going to be special. We should be wrapped up with the everything mid month in September.

In addition to the suspension and brakes we will be fitting a front spoiler, Hella H4 inserts with Hella 500's on custom mounting brackets. I'm still up in the air about putting a front bumper on the car. I'm not wild about the 73 bumpers. We'll see.

Interior wise Dave @ Aardvarc Racing has shipped us his remanufactured Recaro's in Saddle. The car is currently dark blue but I am going to convert it to Saddle. The new Momo wheel is also en route.

Stereo will probably be, Kenwood head unit, Alpine class D amps, Dynaudio three ways up front, Dynaudio rear fill, JL W7 Powerwedge in the trunk. That's about the entire project in a nut shell.
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BMW 135i

pkuchay wrote:

Sounds very similar, I'd love to see some pictures of your project. What did you do in terms of brakes and suspension?

ive got lees front massive set up and irelands rear discs with a 750 m/c
right now i have h&rs with bilstein sports but im swapping them out for IE2's because i like the stance better. rather than mess up your project thread with pics of my car, have a look at my project thread when you get time. i believe our cars will be very similar when done
its a long blog but if you just skim thru the pics you can get an idea of the build
http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,50/page,viewtopic/t,268147/
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you're probably the reason i've had to wait an extra week for my recaros. Luckily i'll get em right before i go to college in the uk


You're car is the same color and a year older than than mine. White looks best on 02's. good taste.

I thought i was doing alot with a complete head job and front suspension rebuild along with a bigger carb, bigger radiator, new shocks, restored recaros, camber plates, new transmission, short shift, etc. But your 2002 project clears my one of the map!

Good work

How much money have you sunk into her?

Didn't your mother ever tell you it wasn't polite to ask about money?!?! Lol.....

I've restored two cars in the past, a 1967 Sunbeam Alpine ($5,500 in 1981)and a 1971 Porsche 911 E ($32,000 in 1991) Fyi, I sold the Sunbeam for $1,500 for my first 2002 and I sold my 911 for $8,500 in 1996 so I could buy a house.

I learned a long time ago that it's not about the money. We do this because these cars are significant to our past and are priceless jewels to be well cared for and preserved. Prior to buying my car it had been years since I saw a 2002 going down the road and I really missed seeing them around.

To be honest with you I'm not counting, but I would think I'll have some where north of $20k and somewhere south of $30k into the overall project. If I hadn't found a rock solid car to start with I would have expected to spend a lot more than this. I looked at a ton of cars that would have had to be torn apart, repaired and put back together. I would think if I had to do that I would have tried to budget closer to $40 or $50k for the project.

Life lesson learned.........never go into this type of hobby with some preconceived notion that your investment will come back to you. Just because I want an M2 doesn't mean someone is willing to pay $30,000 for it when I'm done.

Okay, I'll get off my soap box now.......... :-)
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BMW 135i

is that chamonix? in some of the photos it looks a little darker than chamonix, in a good way. im possibly about to save a second 02' and i want to paint it a little darker than chamonix, kinda like it looks in some of your photos (or perhaps its just my screen!)
anyways, keep up the great work, looking really good!
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1990 Hyundai Excel/Pony (375,000kms and still counting) the ghetto car

It is chamonix.....my camera has an automatic flash that has a mind of it's own. This shows up on the photo's shot in doors. They can vary hues by quite a bit.

I just got my seats and steering wheel in late last week. I have to shoot some photos and load them into my gmail account.
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BMW 135i

pkuchay wrote:

Didn't your mother ever tell you it wasn't polite to ask about money?!?! Lol..... I learned a long time ago that it's not about the money. We do this because these cars are significant to our past and are priceless jewels to be well cared for and preserved. Prior to buying my car it had been years since I saw a 2002 going down the road and I really missed seeing them around. To be honest with you I'm not counting, but I would think I'll have some where north of $20k and somewhere south of $30k into the overall project. If I hadn't found a rock solid car to start with I would have expected to spend a lot more than this. I looked at a ton of cars that would have had to be torn apart, repaired and put back together. I would think if I had to do that I would have tried to budget closer to $40 or $50k for the project. Life lesson learned.........never go into this type of hobby with some preconceived notion that your investment will come back to you. Just because I want an M2 doesn't mean someone is willing to pay $30,000 for it when I'm done. Okay, I'll get off my soap box now.......... :-)

thanks for the heavy lecture.

i was a bit curious because your 02 reminded me of mine and i've just finished an assload of work and was trying to compare the two pricewise and parts wise of what really was to come.

it's not about the money, i love my 02. i don't dare look at all my receipts at once. maybe i'm a bit evnvious because i'm 18 and don't have 40 grand to throw into my 02 =/

I appreciate the envy but save it for some other forum. I've paid my dues and worked my way up from the bottom....twelve years to the Navy Submarine Service and a ton of time under the surface of the ocean protecting your rights to voice your opinion in a free country.

No matter what happens keep your car if you can. Don't let it go. You're in San Jose, a climate friendly environment for these cars. Some of my biggest regrets have to do with selling my cars that meant so much to me.

Keep participating and contributing. Just because I was pointed with you doesn't mean I don't appreciate your efforts. I hope to meet you face to face one day and see your car. It sounds fantastic.

Also, our primary supplier for my business is in Livermore....so you never know. We might even meet someday!

Best wishes to you my fellow enthusiast.
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BMW 135i

hahaha i will never let my car go. it's a part of my family history now. And it would be an honor to meet!

The guys at Sports Car Restoration have jumped into my suspension and brake upgrades this week. The following is the work list for this week:

- IE fixed camber plates
- IE stage two springs
- Bilstein shocks (already in on the last round of upgrades)
- IE front and rear sway bar kits
- Replace ball joints
- Replace all suspension bushings with new Urethane bushings
- Add rear Massive set up (joins the 750MC and Massive front set up)

Last week we dropped in the seats and steering wheel. So, this will complete most of what we wanted to accomplish prior to the S14 conversion. We intend to drop the engine and transmission in later this year and then a respray next year. I have added some photo's of the suspension work in the below link.

http://picasaweb.google.com/P.kuchay/M2
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Dude did you get lucky. Couldn't imagine a cleaner, more original starting point...I feel like an impatient dunce now:).

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1936spyder wrote:

Dude did you get lucky. Couldn't imagine a cleaner, more original starting point...I feel like an impatient dunce now:). Wendell

Don't get down on yourself too much Wendell. We got lucky and found a car that was actually better than we thought, body wise.......suspension.......275,000 miles and it felt like it! We are re-doing everything.

I added some pictures to the album tonight....the rear Massive set up is really impressive. I will be picking the car up tomorrow.

http://picasaweb.google.com/P.kuchay/M2
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Very nice!

I like white cars!

You may consider alpha n fuel management and a cf airbox, although I know you said it's going to be a stage 1 setup.

Also I might suggest a 4.10 diff rather than a 3.90, if you are running an OD 5 sp.

Do reinforce the front subframe while you're in there (I'm sure Matt will mention/do this).

My only real regret on mine currently is not installing a/c!

A pic of mine from the front, maybe you'll change your mind and install the fragile bumper! ;-)

Other unsorted pics here:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v355/raykoke/?start=all



Cheers,

Ray
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'84 ///M635CSi

ray_koke wrote:

Very nice! I like white cars! You may consider alpha n fuel management and a cf airbox, although I know you said it's going to be a stage 1 setup. Also I might suggest a 4.10 diff rather than a 3.90, if you are running an OD 5 sp. Do reinforce the front subframe while you're in there (I'm sure Matt will mention/do this). My only real regret on mine currently is not installing a/c! A pic of mine from the front, maybe you'll change your mind and install the fragile bumper! ;-) Other unsorted pics here: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v355/raykoke/?start=all Cheers, Ray

Awesome car Ray. Your car was the one that prompted me to persue a white car. The picture at the marina is in my Piscaso account and was sucked into my computer from the M2 web page. It was our reference to start the project with. Thanks for the inspiration!!! Matt had an S-14 conversion going on here back in May, combine the two and there you go!
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BMW 135i

There is a 69 1600 with an S14 swap at Zbylut in Amherst Mass. And I saw another one out at Boston CCA event at Kimball Farms.

pkuchay wrote:

Awesome car Ray. Your car was the one that prompted me to persue a white car. The picture at the marina is in my Piscaso account and was sucked into my computer from the M2 web page. It was our reference to start the project with. Thanks for the inspiration!!! Matt had an S-14 conversion going on here back in May, combine the two and there you go!

Thanks Paul! I had no idea I was being a bad influence again! ;-)

Interesting to view your gallery -- almost like i am looking at my car. Tho mine is just running Bilsteins and ST sways and bars. I'd be interested to drive a car with Ireland's setup and compare -- mine will probably feel soft by comparison.

I see you have the ebrake calipers on also. Mine may be on by now, I need to schedule a trip back and see.

Your ///M badge is too big! You need one this size! ;-) (old pic with old exhaust and unrepaired rear pan)



Cheers,

Ray
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ray_koke wrote:

pkuchay wrote: Awesome car Ray. Your car was the one that prompted me to persue a white car. The picture at the marina is in my Piscaso account and was sucked into my computer from the M2 web page. It was our reference to start the project with. Thanks for the inspiration!!! Matt had an S-14 conversion going on here back in May, combine the two and there you go! Thanks Paul! I had no idea I was being a bad influence again! ;-) Interesting to view your gallery -- almost like i am looking at my car. Tho mine is just running Bilsteins and ST sways and bars. I'd be interested to drive a car with Ireland's setup and compare -- mine will probably feel soft by comparison. I see you have the ebrake calipers on also. Mine may be on by now, I need to schedule a trip back and see. Your ///M badge is too big! You need one this size! ;-) (old pic with old exhaust and unrepaired rear pan) Cheers, Ray

Ray,

I'd like to talk with you about the performance of your car and the mods to the 2.3 that you did. Can you send me an email address or phone number?

Thanks in advance,

Paul
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BMW 135i

ray.koke at gmail dot com works ;-)

Cheers,

Ray
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All,

I have added some photo's to my Piscaso gallery to show the most recent upgrades. The following is done:

- suspension
- brakes
- Replaced all bushings with Urethane
- Seats and steering wheel

We are chasing a couple of irritating issues, a little rubbing from the Ebrake and an urge to pull to the right under braking (maybe steering box, or tie rod)

I am very happy with the car so far. It's a pleasure to run around in. I can't wait for another 100 HP.

Also, I changed the gallery by renaming the gallery, M2 verses M02.









http://picasaweb.google.com/P.kuchay/M2
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BMW 135i

which airdam have you used on this car? i noticed you don't have flares, i like the look of the airdam without flares, but i've heard that some airdams need flares otherwise they're too wide for the car. looking good!
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1974 BMW 2002 Sahara restoration
1990 Hyundai Excel/Pony (375,000kms and still counting) the ghetto car

brentspud wrote:

which airdam have you used on this car? i noticed you don't have flares, i like the look of the airdam without flares, but i've heard that some airdams need flares otherwise they're too wide for the car. looking good!

That's a really good question. Believe it or not Matt had this one on the shelf at his facility. Someone had mounted it on a project car and didn't like it. So I asked Matt to put it on my car. I'll ask him tomorrow, he's off on Mondays.
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BMW 135i

brentspud wrote:

which airdam have you used on this car? i noticed you don't have flares, i like the look of the airdam without flares, but i've heard that some airdams need flares otherwise they're too wide for the car. looking good!

That's a really good question. Believe it or not Matt had this one on the shelf at his facility. Someone had mounted it on a project car and didn't like it. So I asked Matt to put it on my car. I'll ask him tomorrow, he's off on Mondays.
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BMW 135i

Looks like the plastic IE one. I 've got a used one I 'll part with.
bcthomas122279@yahoo.com
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