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Date: 3-14-08 03:00
From: Draco02 in Temple City View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Project BMW S2002

This is the plan.
2005 Honda S2000 AP2 2.2 L motor and 6 spd. tranny in my 02. Had some delays with the accident which totalled my car. Will run AEM EMS.
Here is a pic of the new car that it's going into. Will be cleaning up engine bay this weekend and Stitch welding the seams on the front end for extra support. Planning on big brake upgrades with disc inthe rears, As for exterior I am going with Turbo look. Interior will run roll bar and Recaro EVO 8 seats. Suspension will be either IE stage 2 with shorten Tii struts and Bilsteins. I want to enjoy this on the streets as well as the track.

Will Keep you posted with Motor measurements...


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Date: 3-14-08 03:30
From: Draco02 in Temple City View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002

Sorry for delay...totalled last car so had to find a new doner. Here she is.
The Plan:
Install 2005 S2000 AP2 motor 2.2 L 6 speed tranny into this 02.
Purpose of use:
Street and occasional track events ( track days, Time attack )
Suspension:
Tii struts, IE stage 2 with shorten strut w/ Bilstein Race. IE sways, poly bushing, adj. camber plates
Brakes: Big brake kit with rear disc, Tii booster and upgrade master
Cosmetics: Turbo front airdam with turbo Flares either in the Polaris colr or 2005 M3 met. grey.



Date: 3-14-08 03:43
From: Supergeek in Los Angeles View user's profile
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002

Damn, an F20 powered 2002 will be sick!! I would prefer an SR20DET, but then Im a Nissan junkie. Good luck, bro!
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Date: 3-14-08 03:50
From: Draco02 in Temple City View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002

Yeah...I come from a HONDA background. The F22 only has 22k miles on it. Plus the SR20DET has the exhaust on the opposite side of the existing 2002. May be difficult with clearance with stock steering box. More work I would think....but possible!!!



Date: 3-14-08 03:58
From: rogerspeed in the OC View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002

Over on the alfabb there is a similar conversion going on: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/engine-conversions/20907-gtv-s2000-warning-not-alfa-purist.html
To see the pix, you do have to register, very detailed swap.
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Date: 3-14-08 04:13
From: Draco02 in Temple City View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002

Thanks Roger,
I saw that post awhile back. That gentlemen is down in the South Bay area I believe. Interesting.
Thanks.



Date: 3-17-08 11:22
From: RoyW in Harvard, MA View user's profile
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002

Sounds like a very cool project (and drive train!). How long to you expect it will take to complete and be a "driver"?? What sort of track event to you plan to participate in? Keep us posted with pics and progress reports.

-RoyW



Date: 3-17-08 02:39
From: Draco02 in Temple City View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002

Roy,
We will do local track events through track days to set up the car. But will be shooting to get invited to next years Long Beach grand Prix on the Exibition runs. We are heading out there this year with our race integra.
Drive train will be 3.90 lsd but if that does not hold up We will try to fit the S2000 rear diff in.
I started to strip down the enging bay this weekend and started to seam weld for strength. The driveshaft will be custom made. We are hoping to have this running in a few months. Depending on budget I might throuw in a turbo kit on. We'll see...first things first.
Track events will be time attack and time trials through local events thrown by Magazines. I have an appointment to have a photo shoot for this car when it is complete. Hopefully we can get it done soon...



Date: 3-17-08 07:42
From: bobthomas in eastern NC View user's profile
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002

Sounds lovely. That engine sounds like it's in keeping with 02ness,even though it's not from Germany.



Date: 3-18-08 09:54
From: Draco02 in Temple City View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002

The characteristics of the honda motor is very close with the S14. High rev motor, 9k...This will be very fun...



Date: 3-25-08 11:01
From: Draco02 in Temple City View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002

Mock up of the subframe...
Need to modify stock mounting plates with a sheet of metal. Will take the mounts brackets to local plasma cutter or water jet guy to cut. Subframe has to move forward. The steering box looks like it will clear the motor. Will have to cut off the stock mount on the subframe. Here are some pictures.


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Date: 3-31-08 02:05
From: Draco02 in Temple City View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002/UPDATE

We got the motor in place for mocking up purposes. The main concearn wass the steering box placement. The motor clears and the stock steering box will stay. The issue now is the brake booster. I have the Tii booster for it but it looks like there will be no room for it. The subframe was fine but we had to cut out the passenger side mount on the subframe. The tranny tunnel was notched out and raised from the engine bay about 1.5 inches for clearance.
Here are some pics of the work this weekend.
Engine will sit a little bit hiogher than in here. It is currently on the subframe. We will make custom mounts to probably the engine bay frame rails. This will ne the strongest points. This way the motor can remain in the car even if we were to pull out the subframe for suspension work.
Will be out of town for w few weeks so will keep you posted with more work then. Anyone with ideas with the brakes master relocation please chime in. Thanks fellas.


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Date: 3-31-08 07:03
From: BLUNT in Wayzata,Minnesota, gods country View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002/UPDATE

i love seeing such a high tech state of the art motor sitting in an old 02 chassis. nice work. anyway to drop that motor down lower at all??
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Date: 3-31-08 07:33
From: bingbong in Sydney - Australia View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002/UPDATE

what about RHD boosters?
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Date: 4-1-08 10:16
From: Draco02 in Temple City View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002/UPDATE

Bingbong,
I spoke with Jeremy at IE and he gave me some ideas on which direction to go. The least expensive way is to make a bracket that bolts directly up to where the boosters bolts up and mount a master cylinder on to that eliminating the booster. or 2002racing has a very nice setup but does cost 1500.00. I guess depending where I am on budget we will decide then.



Date: 4-3-08 01:13
From: winstontj in 02129 View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002/UPDATE

i'll post up some pictures later on of my pedal box. I'm doing a booster delete and running manual brakes. it was commonly done on the old race cars. Simply pull the pedal box, grind off the upright brackets (weight saver too), weld on a reinforcement strap, drill/cut holes and run the MC. Choose your MC based on brakes. I assume you'll be running something BIG up front and at least RDB?

I'll post what I have up later tongiht when I can get my photobucket at home.

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Date: 4-3-08 02:46
From: winstontj in 02129 View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002/UPDATE

LINK:
http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,57/page,viewtopic/t,295813/highlight,pedal+box/

To keep everything together. I found this by going to forum search and typing 'pedal box' in the top and 'winstontj' in the user name.

I plan on using an e32 master cylinder from a 750i. you can buy them from autohaus for $150 shipped.

I'll come on later and post up pictures of my pedal box and the progress. Simple idea is to grind off the booster support uprights and make it work.

Le I got your email - will reply & post up more soon!
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Date: 4-3-08 02:56
From: Draco02 in Temple City View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002/UPDATE

Thank you very much!!!



Date: 4-14-08 07:11
From: SeanH in Seattle View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002/UPDATE

Wow, wish I saw this earlier. I don't really have anything much to add, but I know I saw a thread on this before.

If you do an exhaustive web search you might find the guy that tried this. It was years ago, but I'm sure its still out there. He had the same problem with engine height that you have. Not that it's a problem really.

I absolutely love that engine. Honda is one of a kind in their ability to make an economical sport engine with great longevity.

A buddy of mine and I are putting one of these, as well as a full S2000 suspension in a Toyota AE86. The goal is to take it to the Newfoundland Targa in a couple years.

Cheers!



Date: 5-14-08 03:12
From: bmw1602.com in Los Angeles View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002/UPDATE

posted it over in the engine swap forum on bimmerforums.....

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=13033884&posted=1#post13033884
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Date: 9-3-08 10:29
From: 1slow2002 in palm harbor florida View user's profile
Subject: Re: Project BMW S2002/UPDATE

in that thread of the alpina another used posted that his early 1600 came stock with no power brakes and the brake master was mounted to the pedal box from factory and that he had a local fab shop mount a clutch master to it since the car was manual clutch.
i would think that if you can get an old 1600 pedal box that would be the ticket.



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