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Date: 1-5-07 12:58
From: Pinepig in Citrus Heights, CA View user's profile
Subject: I know let's ban Al

At least esty will then voluntarily shut the fuck up.

This was a public service announcement from twobirdswithonestone.org

BTW this post was made tongue in cheek, if it made you butthurt, please wipe the sand out of your crack before making your reply, thank you for your cooperation.
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Date: 1-5-07 01:17
From: AlCanuck in Surrey, BC, Canada View user's profile
Subject: Re: I know let's ban Al

Fuck you mr pig, please dont insult me any more.

Don't make me write a blog about it, asshole.
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Date: 1-5-07 01:21
From: Pinepig in Citrus Heights, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: I know let's ban Al

No fuck you Al.

Go ahead write your blog, but wipe the sand out of yer crack first.
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Date: 1-5-07 01:31
From: AlCanuck in Surrey, BC, Canada View user's profile
Subject: Re: I know let's ban Al

On a serious note, I emailed Steve K yesterday, and asked him to ban me.

For the record, I do not enjoy my time here anymore. Not like I used to, even before I ever ran a shop of any kind. This place has changed, and not for the good. Whether or not I was part of that change is a moot point now. I don't like the "new FAQ", and would prefer not to be a part of it.

Problem is, I have little self control over coming here, so I asked for some electronic intervention, asking to be nuked. Esty can have it, she wins, I want out.

Steve never replied.

Al
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Date: 1-5-07 05:56
From: Biscuit3 in Sydney, Australia View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: I know let's ban Al

AlCanuck wrote:
On a serious note, I emailed Steve K yesterday, and asked him to ban me.

Steve never replied.

Al


Why should he? You're a grown man right? You pay your bills and can feed yourself, there are somethings you can do yourself. No need to ban yourself and Esty didn't win. You're going through some rough times. Just settle it and learn not to do it again - easy peasy.
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Date: 1-5-07 05:59
From: slash02 in Calgary View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: I know let's ban Al

AlCanuck wrote:
On a serious note, I emailed Steve K yesterday, and asked him to ban me.

For the record, I do not enjoy my time here anymore. Not like I used to, even before I ever ran a shop of any kind. This place has changed, and not for the good. Whether or not I was part of that change is a moot point now. I don't like the "new FAQ", and would prefer not to be a part of it.

Problem is, I have little self control over coming here, so I asked for some electronic intervention, asking to be nuked. Esty can have it, she wins, I want out.

Steve never replied.

Al


Bah, just call me, give me your password i'll change it foryou.



Date: 1-5-07 08:28
From: esty View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: I know let's ban Al

Biscuit3 wrote:
You're a grown man right? You pay your bills and can feed yourself, there are somethings you can do yourself.


obviously, you haven't been keeping up girlfriend, larson does not pay his bills...seeing the added pork in his latest pic's, it appears he does manage to keep the feedbag full
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Date: 1-5-07 05:22
From: jwcurry in Salem, OR View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: I know let's ban Al

But (p)est, how do we have any way of knowing......other than your posted word if you reply, that your undergarments are perfectly lilly white?

Fact is, we take people at thier word and on good faith. Al's slipped up on that accord with some folks and I hope these relationships are repaired and everything is made good.

Jerry
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Date: 1-5-07 06:27
From: esty View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: I know let's ban Al

jwcurry wrote:
But (p)est, how do we have any way of knowing......other than your posted word if you reply, that your undergarments are perfectly lilly white?

Fact is, we take people at thier word and on good faith. Al's slipped up on that accord with some folks and I hope these relationships are repaired and everything is made good.

Jerry


dude....can i make a suggestion....if i were you, i'd try to bond with k-priss, i think you 2 have a lot in common and could pool your scorn resources












and since you're in the forgiving mood, i hear larson still has a set of rugs for sale and accepts paypal....do the right thing jer, show larson you still trust him and send him the bucks for that set...set an example for others to follow
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Date: 1-5-07 06:32
From: Pinepig in Citrus Heights, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: I know let's ban Al

Esty I got a question.

When this is all said and done, will you take down link to the blog page and cease to mention said shitbag ever again as long as he remains gone. It's only right and I do believe you said you would.
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Date: 1-5-07 07:33
From: esty View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: I know let's ban Al

Pinepig wrote:
Esty I got a question.

When this is all said and done, will you take down link to the blog page and cease to mention said shitbag ever again as long as he remains gone. It's only right and I do believe you said you would.


i mention'd this before, perhaps you'll recall....when larson came on the board and said that he had shut down his debunking operation and there would be no more "what seamedperfect"...i did in fact remove the link in my sig...it stayed gone until larson made his prexmas strike of 7 people, hawking paypal funds for something he didn't even have yet with the promise those 7 unfortunates would have their crap before xmas

when he reneged on his original announcement that he was out of biz, i place the link back in my sig..

sorry for the rant...yes, once i'm convinced larson is not using this or any other BMW forum any of us frequent to try to separate other from their hard earn'd money, i will remove it..there would be no reason to have it there...maybe i'll change it to jcurry sux and start a blog about him and kpriss following me around the forum with their noses up my ass....you think that would fly...sorry....jk....

until larson's ashes are spread, i'm not convinced he's telling the truth...he doesn't have a very good history with being truthful, you know and how many ploys have we seen him attempt in an effort to suck up to everyone here and those he successfully duped?

what else do you want to know about me mr pig, since i'm in a chatty mood now
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Date: 1-5-07 07:53
From: Pinepig in Citrus Heights, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: I know let's ban Al

I hate to say it but I've had just about enough of this today, I'll be up for more Saturday Afternoon I'm sure.

One more link to the bidding thread on the off chance that someone on the board hasn't seen it.

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,50/page,viewtopic/t,284243/

I'm gonna go hang out at AR15.com for a little while now if you guys like drama and stupid shit the general discussion forum there is the place to be.
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Date: 1-5-07 10:41
From: jwcurry in Salem, OR View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Actually (p)esty.....

I did place an auction bid on the last of Al's carpets. I hope I win it.

I'm in NO hurry and I know, eventually I'll receive it. Just as I received a headliner and door panels from Al. Slow, but sure..........and delivered.

The stuff w/ Blunt and the other fellow really disturbed me. Al's guilty of inefficiency, never saying "no" because he wanted the sale and he's particularly guilty of putting himself and his needs first. He's also not very good at admitting he's wrong. But a thief......I don't believe that......sorry.

Also, (p)esty....don't mislead the newbies that read these threads late. He delivered 3 of the 7, carpets as I recall reading. He missed his deadline, he didn't make his claim.....bruise or no bruise. And yes....his excuses aren't worth much anymore. You stirred up the pot by asking if anyone had received their carpets and then, requesting photographic proof. This transpired well before this final explosion.

I'm disappointed Al: (1.) Left the board and (2.) engaged you in any sort of retort from the very beginning. He's been as rude as you have by disregarding people's requests for peace. He should have stuck around, never ever responded to you and then individually cleared all of his obligations and responsibilities in as timely manner as possible. He should have communicated with people. Oh....and he shouldn't have gotten that damned stoooopid tattoo and then showed it off.

Man alive, I can smell the manure on your grin all the way from Oregon. I personally, wouldn't be proud of being a divisive crank that some sizeable percentage of FAQ'ers don't think squat of and wish they'd be rid of. But that's me.........

I wouldn't be very proud of running someone like David Lumbra off the board....a person that as John Nevious says, has forgotten more about 02's than you'll ever know. He has a shop and professionally restores them. He often gave advice here. We've lost his knowledge thanks to your rudeness. How's that a good thing for any of us? How?

Your "scorched earth" war against Al has cost this board a lot. As has been mentioned by others, a lot of knowledge has walked. You won't admit to that........you are too in love with the taste of your own venom.

Admittedly, you've saved some future people from some frustration/consternation since he's not here to sell anymore. That's a good thing. You also give a lot of useful advice. There's positives to all of this, sure. But, I guess I keep......what is it.....my head up your posterior.....hoping I'll reach some chord of decency within you.

If you want to tangle with me, start a blog about me......I'll play. I'll play all day long. But, you won't have any unfulfilled obligations to laud over me. I also won't lower myself to using your vocabulary and I will also write in clear articulate (albeit, rambling) sentences. I will never make fun of your car or what you done to it because it's yours, you like it and you are proud of your work. It's well cared for and that's great. AND.....I won't ever leave the board.....just like you.

Well, unless I buy that Fiat X1/9 ;-)

Kisses & hugs,
Jerry
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Date: 1-5-07 11:36
From: esty View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Actually (p)esty.....

jwcurry wrote:
I did place an auction bid on the last of Al's carpets. I hope I win it.

I'm in NO hurry and I know, eventually I'll receive it. Just as I received a headliner and door panels from Al. Slow, but sure..........and delivered.

The stuff w/ Blunt and the other fellow really disturbed me. Al's guilty of inefficiency, never saying "no" because he wanted the sale and he's particularly guilty of putting himself and his needs first. He's also not very good at admitting he's wrong. But a thief......I don't believe that......sorry.

Also, (p)esty....don't mislead the newbies that read these threads late. He delivered 3 of the 7, carpets as I recall reading. He missed his deadline, he didn't make his claim.....bruise or no bruise. And yes....his excuses aren't worth much anymore. You stirred up the pot by asking if anyone had received their carpets and then, requesting photographic proof. This transpired well before this final explosion.

I'm disappointed Al: (1.) Left the board and (2.) engaged you in any sort of retort from the very beginning. He's been as rude as you have by disregarding people's requests for peace. He should have stuck around, never ever responded to you and then individually cleared all of his obligations and responsibilities in as timely manner as possible. He should have communicated with people. Oh....and he shouldn't have gotten that damned stoooopid tattoo and then showed it off.

Man alive, I can smell the manure on your grin all the way from Oregon. I personally, wouldn't be proud of being a divisive crank that some sizeable percentage of FAQ'ers don't think squat of and wish they'd be rid of. But that's me.........

I wouldn't be very proud of running someone like David Lumbra off the board....a person that as John Nevious says, has forgotten more about 02's than you'll ever know. He has a shop and professionally restores them. He often gave advice here. We've lost his knowledge thanks to your rudeness. How's that a good thing for any of us? How?

Your "scorched earth" war against Al has cost this board a lot. As has been mentioned by others, a lot of knowledge has walked. You won't admit to that........you are too in love with the taste of your own venom.

Admittedly, you've saved some future people from some frustration/consternation since he's not here to sell anymore. That's a good thing. You also give a lot of useful advice. There's positives to all of this, sure. But, I guess I keep......what is it.....my head up your posterior.....hoping I'll reach some chord of decency within you.

If you want to tangle with me, start a blog about me......I'll play. I'll play all day long. But, you won't have any unfulfilled obligations to laud over me. I also won't lower myself to using your vocabulary and I will also write in clear articulate (albeit, rambling) sentences. I will never make fun of your car or what you done to it because it's yours, you like it and you are proud of your work. It's well cared for and that's great. AND.....I won't ever leave the board.....just like you.

Well, unless I buy that Fiat X1/9 ;-)

Kisses & hugs,
Jerry


thanks again for the attention jer...let me make another thing clear...personally i don't give a rat's ass about larson and never will....PERIOD....he was the cause of everything that happen'd (to him) and like all of us, he did have a choice...the sad thing is, he won't learn from all of this...i'll make a bet...give him a while to lick his wounds and he'll be right back announcing he's back in the saddle, soliciting more paypal money...

and for your benefit, since you seem'd to miss the jest in what i said, i was ribbing you about a blog about you....

sincerely jerry, if you don't like my responses, then stop provoking them....as long as you and others keep prodding me, i'm gonna keep giving you these lame responses...do you think it's easy being as stupid as i am...trying to right intelligent sentences and make sense of what i'm trying to say so you at least stand a chance understanding me
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Date: 1-6-07 12:09
From: jwcurry in Salem, OR View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Actually (p)esty.....

> and for your benefit, since you seem'd to miss the jest in what i said, i was ribbing you about a blog about you....

I know you were. If you haven't figured it out, I like to get into verbal exchanges with people. Civil.....but still....exchanges. I suppose you are my flavor of the month.

I still wish certain things and behaviors would take place, but they won't. So, on & on with my death struggle with you. But, there is a good natured aspect to it........to be sure. At least from where I stand.

Jerry
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Date: 1-8-07 11:52
From: 73colorado02 in Fort Mill SC. View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Actually (p)esty.....

I just have one question Esty. I could never find out why this all started. I could not find why you went on this rant and why you continue it when you say you don't care about Al or what happens to him. If that is true then please stop all of this and let us get back to the way the old board was. I and most people will agree that we are saddened that they can't get a good quality carpet kit now that Al is gone.
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Date: 1-9-07 01:21
From: Motronic View user's profile
Subject: Re: Actually (p)esty.....

73colorado02 wrote:
I just have one question Esty. I could never find out why this all started. I could not find why you went on this rant and why you continue it when you say you don't care about Al or what happens to him. If that is true then please stop all of this and let us get back to the way the old board was. I and most people will agree that we are saddened that they can't get a good quality carpet kit now that Al is gone.


Boo hoo....
Be careful when you say most or "we", and esty started the report or fact stating (blog) after Al failed to carry through with his stated obligations after taking peoples money and not returning emails or phone calls. Very simple really, Al is the reason you cant get a carpet kit from him.
Read enough and open your eyes, you will see why this has taken place.

It's not because of esty so dont kill the messenger. You should actually thank her.
In reality most of us are sick of Al using the FAQ for his own personal advertising medium, and acting like a donation is a generous thing instead of what should happen naturally to thank the FAQ for being there to sustain his business.
To be very clear, all of the money he is paying for a new tattoo and going to Europe could very well have made a dent in the amount he owes to the FAQ for existing to support his so called/former business.



Date: 1-9-07 04:15
From: Biscuit3 in Sydney, Australia View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Actually (p)esty.....

73colorado02 wrote:
I just have one question Esty. I could never find out why this all started. I could not find why you went on this rant and why you continue it when you say you don't care about Al or what happens to him. If that is true then please stop all of this and let us get back to the way the old board was. I and most people will agree that we are saddened that they can't get a good quality carpet kit now that Al is gone.



I've actually read through this a couple of times. You claim you have a question for Esty but the funny thing is, I can't seem to find a single question mark in your entire entry. Well, a question just isn't a question without a question mark, now is it?
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Date: 1-9-07 09:49
From: jwcurry in Salem, OR View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Actually (p)esty.....

The so-called carpet war actually began before Al began to be publically outed for difficulites delivering product in a what was considered by some buyers, a timely manner. Read her blog. It started over carpet samples. Al didn't have what she wanted and it escalated into a flame war. That was Al's first mistake....saying anything other than "I'm sorry, Seams Perfect can't meet your needs".

Motronic.....you just ask someone to be careful using the word "we" and then you turn around and do essentially the same thing saying "most of us were sick of Al using the board as his personal advertising medium."

How do you know that? I never thought he misused the FAQ board and the door prizes he donated to West Coast 02 events was pretty cool. But that's a single data point only.

But, yeah........bottom line........orders needed to be filled and customer expectations met. I hope this all dies down and eventually I hope people feel free to come back to the FAQ. I consider both Al & esty to be assets to the community. I just choose to interact 02-wise with one, not the other.

By the way, I bought Al's last carpet set. I'll let you know when I get it. I'll even post a pic if asked.

Jerry
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Date: 1-9-07 11:49
From: 73colorado02 in Fort Mill SC. View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Actually (p)esty.....

I should of been more clear with the we statement and I am sorry about that. I will say that several people are dissaponted that he is gone and that several people hate that this keeps going on. Now that is all i am going to say about the subject and thanks for the help Jerry. Oh yeah and motronic, Please don't say "most of us are sick of it", because you dont know everyone on here and you can't generalise a statement like that. Thankyou.
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Date: 1-10-07 12:27
From: Motronic View user's profile
Subject: Re: Actually (p)esty.....

73colorado02 wrote:
I should of been more clear with the we statement and I am sorry about that. I will say that several people are dissaponted that he is gone and that several people hate that this keeps going on. Now that is all i am going to say about the subject and thanks for the help Jerry. Oh yeah and motronic, Please don't say "most of us are sick of it", because you dont know everyone on here and you can't generalise a statement like that. Thankyou.


Quick suggestion... why dont you take a poll and see how many are sick of all this and how many aren't. The reason it all started was because Al began using the board for his own personal gain coming across like he was doing everyone a favor and making a profit. I dont recall seeing ads for seemsalmostperfect in any magazines or paid venues do you?

Get it??



Date: 1-10-07 01:33
From: jwcurry in Salem, OR View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Actually (p)esty.....

No, I'm sorry....I don't really "get it". Maybe you can re-explain it to me.

The poll you suggest, will have exactly the same utility as the "ban esty" poll did, which is to say.....no value at all.

Also, you mentioned in your first post that "most of us" were sick of Al using the FAQ board as an advertising medium. Your last post mentions asking FAQ'ers if they are "sick of all this".

Those are two entirely different questions since I think "all this" refers to the flame wars. I would guess the majority would answer the the first in the negative sense and the second, in the positive sense.

I'm sorry that you felt Al was taking advantage of the board by mentioning his business. I didn't feel that way, nor do I feel about that way about the frequent posters in the FAQ FS section. I do know that if I recreated a NLA stock part, I know I'd be promoting the heck out of it on the FAQ board. I suppose any sort of advertising is going to bring out opinions on both sides.

He did give away products as door prizes at various West Coast events and that's a form of advertising and also, expenditure.

I don't think it was the original posts that ultimately got Al into hot water though.

But you know, to each their own......it's cool.

Jerry
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