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Date: 1-5-07 12:09
From: Tilux in Albuquerque, New Mexico View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Here's an example to follow.

http://thedotcommune.com/NK/board/index.php?sid=9f91620a418df75ff994635a4678b5d5

We created this message board just about two years ago for the Neue Klasse BMW's; the sedans of the early sixties.

I recommend that you have a look at ANY of the postings there.

You will not find one personal attack or unkind word towards another person in any posting. Not one.

Members stay on the topic, ask and answer questions, request and offer helpful suggestions, and maintain a high level of interest in these models with a determined, sometimes fanatical, attitude to keep these cars on the road.

Steve and Rob - I do not understand why we have a "Personal Attacks" forum here. That is tantamount to saying, "Hey, we want your vitriolic diatribes on our forum." Do we really want that here?

It's a new year. I would hope that as we all move forward we can all make a personal commitment in 2007 - a New Year's resolution if you will - that we can stay focused on why we all came here in the first place.

Steve and Rob - Please eliminate that Personal Attacks forum, too.

Thanks,
Bob



Date: 1-5-07 01:17
From: johnhup in San Francisco, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: Here's an example to follow.

Then leave. Go enjoy your 100+ topics.
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Date: 1-5-07 03:49
From: BLUNT in Wayzata,Minnesota, gods country View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Here's an example to follow.

johnhup wrote:
Then leave. Go enjoy your 100+ topics.


bob is a respected member who has never done anything negative. i also think its a good idea to lose the personal attacks forum. i have a feeling the board is going to be a lot more civil after today
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Date: 1-5-07 04:03
From: johnhup in San Francisco, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: Here's an example to follow.

I also would like to think I have never done anything negative on this board. What I dont do is make posts that point to other boards and say, "look, why cant we be like that?". That is not helpful in the least. Also, that board gets as many posts in 6 months that we get in a day.
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Date: 1-5-07 04:09
From: BLUNT in Wayzata,Minnesota, gods country View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Here's an example to follow.

johnhup wrote:
I also would like to think I have never done anything negative on this board. What I dont do is make posts that point to other boards and say, "look, why cant we be like that?". That is not helpful in the least. Also, that board gets as many posts in 6 months that we get in a day.


i understand your point of view and maybe you were just a little fed up when you posted for him to leave. but bobs a good guy and always willing to help. he meant well
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Date: 1-5-07 04:16
From: johnhup in San Francisco, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: Here's an example to follow.

I am little fed up, just as Bob is obviously. Sorry bob.

As many people here know, I am a proactive person. Thats what I am paid to do, solve problems (Software Engineer). I have the means and know-how to build whatever we need for this board, but no one wants to do anything about it. I am the lead engineer for a 10 million dollar a year web site, I think I can handle this little site but when I offer I am told that "everything is fine and nothing needs to change". I guess thats the way its gonna be then.

A simple anonymous "flag" on each post would allow a logged in user to hit that button only once for a given post. Then if X other logged in users flag that post, hit deletes permanently. I dont know if everyone would like it but it sure would shut everything up pretty quickly. Thats exactly how Craigslist does it.

Anyway, sorry all. Sorry Bob. Long first week back :(.
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Date: 1-5-07 04:31
From: esty View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Here's an example to follow.

i mention'd this in another thread recently, i'd bet membership has close to doubled in the past year or 2...and i'd bet a lot of the growth is because of what the forum is, just like it is...not the way it was

it's juvenile to tell anyone to leave because of their views and opinions...it's dictatorial to demand things be your way or no way
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Date: 1-5-07 05:32
From: jwcurry in Salem, OR View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Here's an example to follow.

Yeah, but there's no more efficient form of government than
a benevolent dictator.

....and sister, you better believe no matter how juvenile or dictatorial it may sound or be.........you'd be long gone from any resource I maintained.

However, truth told......Al would have been too. Some of the language that was used was simply, not acceptable.

I guess if the FAQ was a bar, I'd be putting together an 86'ed list. Eventually I'd be posting (and drinking....using the bar analogy) with myself. ;-)

Jerry
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Date: 1-5-07 07:45
From: TobyB in Seattle View user's profile
Subject: Yeah, but once you start down that road, forever will it

shape your destiny.

We went through that shit- and I can, and will, say shit here- with the roadfly forums. The 2002 one is pretty dead now, whereas we're still having fun.

The thing is, once you start squashing people for arbitrary reasons, you're stuck with it. Yes, it really sucks that Esty and Al hate each other. Life's like that.

Once we start censoring posts, we're screwed. It kills a board faster than rants, attacks and raves. I for one think that moving posts is about as far as it should go- once they start disappearing, so will we.

As to the personal attacks forum, it was a way to deflect what was a nasty- but funny- string of posts. A way to get crap out of the genral forum without censoring.

Yeah, none of that censorship here. That's for other boards.

t
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Date: 1-5-07 09:19
From: ibjettin in San Jose, CA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Yeah, but once you start down that road, forever will it

I agree with the language issue.

Esty, now that Al agreed never to come back again and his shop is closed are you going to remove your blog?

I for one would hope that you would consider removing it and putting this all to rest. There's no doubt Al makes a great product and loves what he does, granted his professionalism needs some work, but now that he's closing shop there's no need to continue.

Again, I would urge you to let it rest and not carry on with it anymore. It has plagued this forum long enough and it's time to just let it go.



Date: 1-11-07 05:32
From: JayKehoe in San Francisco View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: I know Jerry and he sound right on....

Maybe the reason FAQ has "doubled size" in the last year is because Roadfly became too much of a hassle to use( yes: I am one of the original Roadfly founder/users who "defected" to build FAQ). There is a natural increase in the amount of Internet users who have found a resource for revitalizing their 2002/1600/whatever. BUT, It sounds like you all have let this little slice of BMW paradise devlolve into some type of WWR ring, and I am intrigued but dismayed. BTW, Hey "Esty", whoever you are, cool off and do some research before you post here. We began this Board called "FAQ" with a small group of 2002 enthusiasts. You should exercise "keyboard restraint" before you besmearch any person on this Board,especially the people who spent countless hours posting how to do its and pictures, and you should learn to respect those who committed themselves to this Marque and Model. They took time to help neophytes along the way, and they still do so. Your tenor sounds rude. Pleae, have some respect ,and display some restraint. Mr. Jay Kehoe, San Francisco, Ca : 1972 Inka tii A4, 1987 "M325IC" (Bimmer Magazine, Nov. 06,) 1987 Dinan 325is Track car.
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Date: 1-11-07 05:37
From: JayKehoe in San Francisco View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Hey Jery: email me: got the CR tranny about complete...

Jerry: Your email is disabled. Email me at the usual: kehoe 2002 at aol.com. Thanks. Good info to share.
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