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Date: 1-16-06 04:45
From: powelli in Fairfax Station, VA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: m20 powered 74tii - updated - 04/14/2008

1974 2002tii with an m20 swap. Here are a few pics from PO's website.












Driver side fender was fiberglass for some reason (notice the cracking), passenger's is metal. Purchased a replacement OEM one from Sam in VA...Thanks Sam.


Day of arrival.




Uh Oh, we have some rust. Car was described as rust free.


In the shop (RRT) getting the following done.

http://www.roadracetech.com/

Rust repair
Valve cover gasket replacement
Valve adjustment
Oil pan gasket replacement
Replacement of CSB
Replacement of Guibo
Installation of new transmission output flange (old flange cracked & failed)
Installation of new oil filter
Installation of new plugs
Leakdown test (came back at less than 2% across all 6)
Drain tranny & differential fluids, replace w/ Redline
Oil change w/ Mobil 1
Fabrication of bracket to support AFM
Installation of new throttle cable
Clean and inspect coilovers


On the lift with the Style 10's from Greg L. and euro turns from BLUNT. MIMs that were previously on it were the wrong offset - et35. Also have a set of BBS RZ's. Need to get flares put on before I run those.


Notice damage from the output flange failure. One of the POs tried to patch it with JB-Weld.


Old seats. Holding onto to these in case I want to redo them down the road.


New seats.


New wheel.

Also have a new carpet set (german loop - charcoal) on the way from Al, as well as some new trunk boards.

Car should be out of the shop this week and I can't wait to get it out for a drive.
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74 2002tii - m20 powered - Under re-construction


Last edited by powelli on 4-14-08 08:46; edited 15 times in total



Date: 1-16-06 08:24
From: oz_tom in Melbourne - Australia View user's profile
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii

Hey powelli, Is that like the stickers on the e36 M3 LTW's?
Cheers mate,
Tom
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74 - Blacky



Date: 1-16-06 08:34
From: powelli in Fairfax Station, VA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii

Tom -

I believe that they are. PO put them on. I've removed the decal from the rear. Plan on removing the front ones when it gets back from the shop. They look good on the e36 m3, but I don't think that they are appropriate for the '02.

- Ian
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Date: 1-16-06 09:49
From: oz_tom in Melbourne - Australia View user's profile
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii

powelli wrote:
Tom -

I believe that they are. PO put them on. I've removed the decal from the rear. Plan on removing the front ones when it gets back from the shop. They look good on the e36 m3, but I don't think that they are appropriate for the '02.

- Ian


mmm, yeh, i agree. I think they'd maybe look alright on a racing 02 though. Anyway, glad to hear your getting the rust delt with. Should be great when you get it back. Bet ya cant wait :-)!

Tom
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72tii - Whitey
74 - Blacky



Date: 2-2-06 02:25
From: joe76bmw in Houston,Tx View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii

sweet ride
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Car & Driver
April 1968



Date: 2-2-06 02:26
From: joe76bmw in Houston,Tx View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii (nt)

(nt)
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cicilization's all time best way to
get somewhere sitting down"
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Date: 2-2-06 03:59
From: BLUNT in Wayzata,Minnesota, gods country View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii (nt)

looks great ian, i love the stance. what are you running in the rear for springs?



Date: 2-2-06 05:42
From: powelli in Fairfax Station, VA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii (nt)

BLUNT wrote:
looks great ian, i love the stance. what are you running in the rear for springs?


Came with some blue springs that I think might be H&R Race springs. They have been cut by one of the POs and are tearing up the spring pads, so I might be replacing them shortly.

I pickup the car from the shop tomorrow afternoon. Took a little more time to finish up the welding...

Will get some additional pics and the accurate spring info posted this weekend.
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74 2002tii - m20 powered - Under re-construction


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Date: 2-11-06 09:33
From: powelli in Fairfax Station, VA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii (nt)



Mechanics are all sorted. Now I need to find a body shop to have the turbo flares and turbo airdam installed, rockers replaced and respray done. This car has deviated so far from stock that I am now considering getting it sprayed Laguna Seca Blue. Other colors considered include schwartz, fjord and baikal. Both the wife and son like the blues.





Car is outside of the garage right now due to the fuel vapor smells coming from the gas tank. I need to pull it, boil it and seal it.



Oh, and here is a shot of the BBS rims that I will be tucking under the flares.
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Date: 4-13-06 09:46
From: 72BMW2002TII in Milpitas, Ca. View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii

cool
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Date: 4-14-06 06:36
From: TMK-001 in Geelong, Victoria, Australia View user's profile
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii

Nice ride mate! Looks great when you first picked it up! I love those wheels. Shame the car was exactly what you thought it was whemn you purchased it, but is sure will come together nicely!

I love the color! Leguna Seca blue would look awesome on it though and the car is from the generation where it can easily get away with it! The color is probably more suited to that than to the new M3...

Good luck, please keep us up to date with your doings!

Todd
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Date: 4-14-06 07:55
From: powelli in Fairfax Station, VA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii

OK, I need to update this thread.

Car was sent off to Artisan Autobody to have bodywork, flarework and a repaint about 4 weeks ago.



When it returns, it will look very similar to David Wong's Inka '02 shown below.



I stopped by the shop today. Unfortunately, not much has been done. It's backlogged behind some other work. Too bad because I was hoping to have it back by early May.

As for colors, I am leaning towards Chamonix or the MINI color called Pepper White. The wife likes Atlantik Blue and Imola is also still a candidate. Schwartz was heavily considered but dismissed for various reasons. LSB is also out of the running. As BLUNT stated in another post, whatever I choose should look good on the car, especially with the new trim and seals that I purchased from him.

Originally, I was going to leave the engine in a have the bodyshop paint to a hardline at the top of the front fenders. Today, we decided to pull the engine and do it right. So.....I am sure that I am going to be faced with a lot of "While it is out" decisions to make (ie. new clutch, SSK, new 320is bellhousing to replace the damaged one). We also decided to order a new front windshield to replace the original pitted one that I removed.

I'll post some additional pics once some progress is made at the shop.
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74 2002tii - m20 powered - Under re-construction


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Date: 4-15-06 06:31
From: BLUNT in Wayzata,Minnesota, gods country View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii

nice, pick a color and dont let anyone influence you. i chose colorado and got a ration of shit from everyone at the body shop. i knew what i wanted but their comments made me second guess myself. i stuck with it and im glad i did. its looking awesome and everyone at the shop is changing their tune after seeing it as well. youre a sick man ian and i have the receipts to prove it
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Date: 4-15-06 07:28
From: TMK-001 in Geelong, Victoria, Australia View user's profile
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii

AHHHHHH!!!!! I FVVVVCCCKKKKIIIINGGGGG HATE PEPPER WHITE!

As an Ex-MINI Cooper S driver (chili red with black roof) , I think this color has to be the most boring color ever produced and it would be more at home on the walls of a retirement village than on either a MINI or a 2002. Please dont paint it that color for the sake of your own sanity, pick a color that is bright and vibrant or classic (red, black, white (NOT BEIGE!) dark blue or silver)

Sorry to sound like the person Blunt is talking about above who tries to change your mind, but I feel I must pipe up here... :-P

Todd
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Date: 4-16-06 06:44
From: powelli in Fairfax Station, VA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: My m20 powered 74tii

OK.....point taken. I still have time to make a decision. Man....this shouldn't be this hard....
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Date: 4-27-06 06:18
From: 02tom
Subject: make sure they replaced the output flange retaining washer

Without a new retaining washer (securing plate) your new output flange may work loose and need replaced again. Tap it in and bend a couple of edges and the nut can't work loose. I didn't see it in the pic is the only reason I'm mentioning it. And to save you some grief later on. If they sold you $100 flange, they should have sold you the $2 part also.

bmw part # look up on an '87 325i w/5 speed is: 23211490120
number 19 in the diagram "securing plate" (if linking will work - otherwise do a lookup)

[img] http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/k/n/10.png [/img]

[url] http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/k/n/10.png [/url]



Date: 4-27-06 06:27
From: 02tom
Subject: Re: make sure...

Here's a photo with one installed - let me know if you can't see it for some reason

[img]http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/in2002/2002tii/?action=view¤t=DSC00767.jpg[/img]



Date: 4-27-06 06:32
From: 02tom
Subject: ok, here's the pic



http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/in2002/2002tii/DSC00767.jpg



Date: 4-30-06 08:32
From: powelli in Fairfax Station, VA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: make sure they replaced the output flange retaining washer

02tom wrote:
Without a new retaining washer (securing plate) your new output flange may work loose and need replaced again. Tap it in and bend a couple of edges and the nut can't work loose. I didn't see it in the pic is the only reason I'm mentioning it. And to save you some grief later on. If they sold you $100 flange, they should have sold you the $2 part also.

bmw part # look up on an '87 325i w/5 speed is: 23211490120
number 19 in the diagram "securing plate" (if linking will work - otherwise do a lookup)

[img] http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/k/n/10.png [/img]

[url] http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/k/n/10.png [/url]



Thanks for the catch. I will have the shop take a look at it. If it isn't there, I will get that part ordered.
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Date: 5-1-06 07:53
From: powelli in Fairfax Station, VA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Bodywork has started

Engine is out. Sanding has started. Unfortunately, the left rear quarter has a significant amount of filler in it so I might need to source another one.










Paint came in as well. PPG Concept 2K Urethane (DCC) - Imola


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Date: 5-23-06 10:58
From: Cjensen
Subject: Re: Bodywork has started

thing gonna look sick when done, it looked nice before.



Date: 5-24-06 07:32
From: TMK-001 in Geelong, Victoria, Australia View user's profile
Subject: Re: Bodywork has started

Where is the filler you talk about in the left guard? That is not too major - ask your panel guys... have a look at BLUNT's OEM replacement rear 1/4s if you need any evidence of keeping the ones you have...

If you are going to go turbo flares still, that would makethe rear 1/4 panel repair even easier as half of them have to be chopped up!

Imola will be sweet!

Todd
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Date: 5-24-06 08:12
From: powelli in Fairfax Station, VA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Bodywork has started

Well.....I don't have a picture that shows it real well. After sanding for flare fitment, they felt along the panel and found about 1/8 inch of filler on the panel where the flares would have mounted. I intend to mount the flares using nutserts (sp?) and they felt that they mud on the panel would end up cracking the paint over time.

Left quarter is off and wheelhousing is not looking very good either. One of the POs did a half-ass job of fixing previous rust with aluminum tape and mud. In all likelihood the right side is just as bad. Right quarter is on order.

Is it wrong to feel sick when I think about the cutting that is going to occur on those new quarters?




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74 2002tii - m20 powered - Under re-construction


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Date: 6-7-06 01:02
From: M-technik-3 View user's profile
Subject: Re: Bodywork has started

Wow that is going thru some transformation. Maybe we could mount one the splitties under there to see what they would look like.



Date: 6-7-06 03:51
From: BLUNT in Wayzata,Minnesota, gods country View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Bodywork has started

keep going, youre too far in now. my outer wheel housings looked better at first glance until you put a light under them. they were perforated with miniscule pinholes all over. so they had to go too. you wont regret it when done. its a comforting feeling knowing it is rust free for the time being
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Date: 6-7-06 04:42
From: TMK-001 in Geelong, Victoria, Australia View user's profile
Subject: Re: Bodywork has started

Wow! Interesting what a bit further fishing around exposes huh!?!

Glad to see you found that now rather than later... all the best with the project, it will look great when done!

Todd
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Date: 6-29-06 03:34
From: jtt220 View user's profile
Subject: looking great

Hello Ian! It is good to see you are rolling along well on the project. As the often mentioned PO I must say; wow, it is amazing what can exist below the surface! I did finally get a hold of the original builder of the car, if you are ever interested in asking questions. As I gather from the page here their are a lot of things done with corners cut quite a bit. It looks like you have her back on track however. I truly thought I was selling you a pretty well sorted toy in that 02, it is obvious I didn't know what to look for. The mods and quick fixes aforementioned were a product of an owner previous to myself, not that it matters much to you at this point. Anyways, good luck on the project and feel free to contact me. I am in the area for about 10 more weeks and would love to see the 02!



Date: 6-29-06 08:49
From: powelli in Fairfax Station, VA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: looking great

In fairness to James, I have modified my previous references to the PO to state "one of the POs". The car is 30+ years old and as we have all seen, prior repairs on these cars can vary in their level of quality. I know that James performed some mechanical and electrical work on the car while he owned it. A PO prior to him was responsible for the bodywork. Doesn't matter much at this point, as it will all be done correctly this time around.

As for status, the car has received it's new wheel housings and rear quarters and they have been hung. It was recently removed from the rack to make way for some collision work (insurance paid), but should go back up on the rack next week to begin work on the front end.





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Date: 6-29-06 09:48
From: TMK-001 in Geelong, Victoria, Australia View user's profile
Subject: Re: looking great

Good to hear. I cant wait to see this thing in its Imola goodness!

Todd
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Date: 6-30-06 02:46
From: M-technik-3 View user's profile
Subject: Re: looking great

TMK-001 wrote:
Good to hear. I cant wait to see this thing in its Imola goodness!

Todd


Imola is the final decision on color? Wow that's a look at me color. Ask Jay Flower at HMS to show pics of his E30 M tech II S52 Imola he's building. Awesome color I just get scared with such lustery color getting dinged or scratched in a parking lot.



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