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Date: 11-15-05 08:37
From: Benetton in fox island wa View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: anyone prefer analog over digital??

Anyone like the sound of vinyl? i know i do I just picked up a couple more records today THEN PLAY ON by Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, the rare version that has "oh well" on it. And i picked up a rare copy of Tom Petty's Full Moon Fever( word has it that its hard to find on vinyl)
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Date: 11-15-05 10:46
From: Zundfolge1342 in DFW View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: anyone prefer analog over digital??

I prefer analog over digital in many aspects, especially electronic synthesizers, and car gauges and levers, but at the same time digital does have its perks...digital cameras, data storage.. etc
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Date: 11-16-05 09:52
From: 02Les in China again! View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: I remember Fleetwood Mac when they were a real band

Oh yeah. Used to watch Peter Green's FM at the College Union do's in the UK way back when.
And yes; my huge collection of 33.3s, 45s & 78s confirms my preference of vinyl. Not real sound without the crackles & hisses!!!
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Date: 11-16-05 12:06
From: SteveJ in Dublin, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: anyone prefer analog over digital??

YES!

I just heard on Little Steven's Underground Garage that the Creem reunion in England was recorded and is to be released on Vinyl. I can't imagine what it's going to cost. I bet it will be a bit more than the $6.97 I used to pay. Think it will ever end up in the "cut outs" bin? That was sheer joy when I discovered that.

I can just see a bunch of people buying it thinking, "This is a rather large package for a CD."
Visions of Austin Powers trying to play a CD on a phonograph.



Date: 11-16-05 06:38
From: Gil in Vancouver, B.C. View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: anyone prefer analog over digital??

Analog is supposed to produce much nicer bass. I have a few LPs from the 60s and 70s. I really want to get a tube amplifier. I still have my old record player, and just need to get a new needle for it. Tube amps allegedly produce better sound. I used to have a tube amplifier that I make from scratch in high school. Should have kept it I guess.

I used to have a Rolling Stones "Sticky Fingers" album with the zipper on the cover. They are worth a lot now, but unfortunately, my brother swiped it years ago and traded it for some other record....

In high school, I also made some speakers that were huge - something like 5' high x 3' x3'! Along with my home-made tube amp, I could rattle china a block away... Ah, the good 'ol days.

Gil



Date: 11-16-05 09:58
From: Benetton in fox island wa View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: anyone prefer analog over digital??

im using my dads old amp that puts out pretty good sound with a lot of bass. You know a good record to play if you want to shake your walls? that would definatly have to be Smoke on the Water by deep purple LIVE IN JAPAN. word has it they came out with a new cd this year, Theyre being interviewed on rock line right now.
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Date: 11-16-05 10:48
From: robspeed in INDIANAHHH!!!! =D View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: anyone prefer analog over digital??

in my experience, digital does bass better than analog, but analog does treble better than digital. although my vinyl copy of the 1812 overture recorded live with real cannons (direct-to-disc) would tend to belie this. my neighbor across the street in san jose used to have a $25,000 TURNTABLE setup with a (extra cost) air compressor in the garage. literally a zero-friction setup and the needle cartridge was also extra $$$.... worth it? probably not, for me anyways. Ive got all my CD music ripped onto the new (old) laptop at 256kbps... good enough for tired old ears :P

p.s. Jenna and I have a huge huge huge vinyl collection,,, still not ripped, gotta work on that :)
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Date: 11-17-05 03:05
From: SteveJ in Dublin, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: anyone prefer analog over digital??

OK then,
Any feasable way to get the vinyl onto CDs?
Without having to buy the new"Ripster Retro-Vinyl Edition" mixer and scratching table set-up? I don't want anything to cut into my budget for my other toys.

I KNOW I have some vinyl that the record companies will NEVER bother to put onto CD. Or, they may have already done it and are sold out of the run of 50 copies that they made.



Date: 11-17-05 03:38
From: meeks View user's profile
Subject: Re: anyone prefer analog over digital??

i'm starting a vinyl collection and searching for a decently priced tube amp.. macs are nice but too pricey... what kind of turntable are you using??? i have the music hall mmf 2.1 it's Ferrari Red with the matching bellari preamp... it's a pretty cool setup with the marantz receiver... but nothing is going to beat tube if you really want analog sound.. for now the marantz will have to do..



Date: 11-18-05 01:17
From: f1reverb View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: SteveJ, there are plenty of ways to put vinyl onto . . .

CD. I do it all the time. You need a decent turntable with a decent cartridge (I use a Philips GA212 with a Stanton 881 cartridge) and feed that into your computer via a decent A>D converter (after going through a receiver/amp/integrated-amp that has a Phono input). You need a good computer audio card with digital input (from the converter) too. You need some audio editing software to record the vinyl as a .wav file (or Mac equiv), and then use the same software to edit the .wav file to your liking, and some audio restoration software to clean-up the clicks/hiss and other problems that are inherent in vinyl. Then you need something to put in track-IDs and burn a CDR. I use a TC Electronic Finalizer Plus for my A>D and other features, Cool Edit Pro for editing, and DC Audio Restoration Tools. I have an Audiophile 2496 dig i/o card. I've engineered and mastered many surf instro CDs with my setup, both live and studio sources, and making CDRs of vinyl for my radio show in the past. My vinyl transfers to CD sound better than the vinyl ever did. If I wanted crappy sound I'd play the vinyl directly.



Date: 11-18-05 10:59
From: Benetton in fox island wa View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: anyone prefer analog over digital??

the turntable i have is a Music hall mmf 5 black. its pretty nice, my amp is a vintage pioneer piece
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Date: 11-18-05 02:10
From: SteveJ in Dublin, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: SteveJ, there are plenty of ways to put vinyl onto . . .

I miss the old days when you would just release the pause button on the cassette deck whenever you wanted to record an LP.

I do have a decent audio system. Most of it I purchased in Japan and the Philipines when I was in the Navy back in the 80s. Most of it is Kenwood separate components. My turntable is a BIG Sansui direct drive monster. I can't even remeber which Stanton cartridge I'm running on it. For speakers I've got Ohm Walsh 2's. Plenty of sound and quality for me.

I guess I will have to look at the computer to see what I've got on there as far as ins & outs & software.

Benetton-
keep an eye out for garage sales. All kinds of people are unloading their vinyl. Usually dirt cheap.



Date: 11-18-05 09:00
From: f1reverb View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Most computer soundcards have poor . . .

analog inputs, so that's why I have my analog routed through my TC Electronic Finalizer Plus, which has decent 24bit a>d/d>a converters. You have everything you need if you just use your computer analog line-in (like I said it's not the best but will work) from your receiver/pre-amp/integrated-amp tape-out. You can (assuming Windows here) find an audio editor that will record from the soundcard for free. Exact Audio Copy, a fantastic free digital audio extractor program will record I believe, and then you need to get CD-Wave (free) for putting in the track IDs once you've finished with the wave file. Work on the file as one giant audio file for the whole album and burn in DAO (disk at once) mode so you don't get clicks between tracks. Doing track-at-once recording normally gives the wrong sector length at the end of the track and causes the click. I have four sets of JBL 3-way 12" monitors 4310/4311/4312a/L100, but normally never drive more than two-pair at a time. Take your time and edit out as many clicks/pops from the vinyl as you can so you don't have to listen to them. That's why my vinyl>cd transfers sound better than the original source as I clean it up very carefully. One project I did was a CD of Elmore Leonard reading from his book, BE COOL, where he spoke about 18 minutes but it took me 20 hours to remove all his false starts, ummms and the like. My buddy masters movie soundtracks for DVD release and they spend months on one movie soundtrack to make it as perfect as they can get it. One nice thing is that if you find some annoying noise down the road you can work on the wave file again, the one you already have on CDR, as it's easy to extract the file using EAC and edit again and burn a new master.

Cassette is only good if you have one of the few audiophile Nakamichis or a Tandberg 3014a (what I have aside from four Nakamichis). The Tandberg is know as the (Nakamichi) Dragon slayer, as the Nak Dragon is considered just about the best cassette deck ever made, but the Tandberg sounds better. The Tandberg at the last was a 4k deck which you can get on ebay for 300 and up.



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