Date: 7-10-08 10:40 From: Richard Subject: Re: hey Richard,Terry and others
Armond,,,
Lets try again..... I have said many times its not the right or the left. The whole damn system is broke... Big money is running this country. From the bailout of Bears Stearn to the war. Remember the trillion thats been spent is not part of the budget..... Do I think both pres candidates will go to the center to get elected??? You bet.... DoI think they will revert back partially to there original ways???History for the last 60 years says yes.
As to the wiretapping bill. Dems gutless? Yup. The Republican controlled congress that passed the Patriot Act gutless???Once again follow the money.
I would like to think your smarter than your Hussein Obama reference...It comes of as intolerant,racist???
Am I happy with the current system???Hell no. Do I think Barack has a better chance of changing things??? I hope....Are you and global warming Georgie related????
Date: 7-10-08 11:06 From: Armond in Marin County Subject: Re: hey Richard,Terry and others
My point is, you guys keep whinning about what Bush has done but your Democratic leaders dont have the Political will to make things happen. If that is the case, why do your leaders in the Democratic party even bother to gripe and moan and bitch about these things when you cant back it up? Especialy when you have control of congress and can make changes. If that is the kind of leadership you want then it is what it is. That is not my definition of leadership. I respect your opnion Richard and I'm not trying to put people down. I'm just trrying to understand the thought process. _________________ 73 Tii. My Daily driver
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Date: 7-10-08 01:25 From: Richard Subject: Control of congress?????
Too much Fox news...... Control of Congress would denote a veto proof majority...... Its not there with every Democrat voting the party ticket... 3-4 years ago the democrats voted to cut off funding. The Bush promptly called a news conference and declared the Democrats were letting our soldiers die and were not interested in the welfare....unpatriotic...ad nauseam.Politics at its greatest.....So by your definition the dem leadership should sponser bills that the bush and the mccain would use for politics and veto???? As I said the system is broke....Right or wrong truth or lies..it doesnt matter.ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND POWER
Date: 7-10-08 04:17 From: Armond in Marin County Subject: Re: Control of congress?????
If your leaders strongly believe on something then they should vote accordingly. Let Bush or others challenge it but at least you stood up for something. Complianing and whinning about the issue during elections and not do anything once elected is just plain gutless and does not show any kind of leadership. And it's not about FOX..FOX news does not skew my thought process. _________________ 73 Tii. My Daily driver
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Date: 7-10-08 05:13 From: Richard Subject: What do you not understand about a veto???
The bush who has lied cheated deceived the american people is not interested in the truth or compromise. I still laugh at the flight suit and Misson Accomplished. Rumsfield saying the Iraqi's would welcome us as liberators. The bush has bankrupted all aspects of this country in the name of greed and his wealthy friends....And you dish the dems for lack of leadership???? If Barack is elected(scary thought for you) and the veto power is removed MAYBE we will see the leadership thats been lacking from the Executive branch.... Any chance you have been watching the impeachment bill for the bush????ALL You want to do is the bash the left fine...You and georgie Global W must be related... Your worry about mortage points and values when people are being tortured and held with no trial,investment bankers made billions off mortages...the CRA* done by the bush and his minions would cover pages and as with georgie global warming YOU NEVER ADDRESS ANYTHING BUT YOUR RANTS> NO SENSE_NO ANSWERS JUST RANTS>>>>GO LISTEN TO RUSH OXYCANTIN LIMBAUGH>>>>You have any petitions with people dead ten years you want me to sign???I wont waste any more time.....
Date: 7-10-08 06:52 From: Armond in Marin County Subject: Re: What do you not understand about a veto???
Relax Richard. all I'm saying is, here is a grand opportunity for your left/ libereal views to be heard. Here is a great opportunity to make a statement in congress and to the American People that you've had enough. But in the end. Nothing....nothing to show for...except to whine,bitch,complain.....but Action and leadership? NONE...ZIP....ZERO. OH well. It's your party, not mine. As you were. _________________ 73 Tii. My Daily driver
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Date: 7-10-08 08:43 From: esty Subject: Re: What do you not understand about a veto???
Richard wrote:
Any chance you have been watching the impeachment bill for the bush?
wrote:
On June 9, 2008 Dennis Kucinich gave official notice of his intention to introduce 35 articles of impeachment against George W. Bush to the U.S. House of Representatives. On June 10, 2008, as Congressman Robert Wexler joined Kucinich as co-sponsor of the resolution, Kucinich officially introduced his resolution to a near-empty House chamber. The Clerk took just under four hours to read the resolution into the record. As soon as the House Clerk finished reading the resolution in the early morning of 11 June, Kucinich himself moved to refer the resolution to the Judiciary Committee. The House voted 251 to 166 to refer the impeachment resolution to the Judiciary Committee on 11 June.
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Date: 7-10-08 08:48 From: Armond in Marin County Subject: Re: What do you not understand about a veto???
I Dont agree with Dennis Kucinich but I respect him for standing up on what he believes. He should be the Democratic candidate. _________________ 73 Tii. My Daily driver
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You have to look at the root of the problem, it's origin! Bush is a king or at least he thinks so. He has the power and has abused it. You can't blame congress and he may still be impeached since that is now on the table. _________________ '75 Alpine Weiss I
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Date: 7-12-08 11:01 From: Armond in Marin County Subject: Re: hey Richard,Terry and others
Hey Terry,
Yes. Bush can veto but at least you can say you have done your part by voting for what you believe. The responsibility will rest on his shoulders. The American people will know and will vote accordingly. Moving forward is the key. Blaming and whining will not solve anything. Action speaks louder than words. _________________ 73 Tii. My Daily driver
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