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gwb72tii wrote:

we never did see bill's

Last I heard, "bill's" not running in this election.

Bringing this up as if it's some sort of valid counterpoint (re: health of a candiate) doesn't reveal any more political insight than the constant mention Barack Obama's middle name.

Let's do the math:

If McCain is elected, he'll be a crusty 76 years old at the end of his first term...at the end of his second term, should he be that ambitious, he'll be a curmudgeonly octegenarian (80).

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What's wrong with the name Hussein? I think it's a beautiful traditional Muslim name.
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What's wrong with the name Hussein? I think it's a beautiful traditional Muslim name.

It's an Arabic name. Obama is a Christian.

Obama has tried to set the record straight from an attack circulating widely on the Internet that is designed to play into prejudices against Muslims and fears of terrorism.

I'm uncertain as to whether you are genuinely misinformed, or merely a bigot who spends too much time listening to talk radio and reading internet Neocon vitriol.

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Delia wrote:

Armond wrote: What's wrong with the name Hussein? I think it's a beautiful traditional Muslim name. It's an Arabic name. Obama is a Christian. Obama has tried to set the record straight from an attack circulating widely on the Internet that is designed to play into prejudices against Muslims and fears of terrorism. I'm uncertain as to whether you are genuinely misinformed, or merely a bigot who spends too much time listening to talk radio and reading internet Neocon vitriol. Delia

Delia, take a big deep breath, think of flowers in the sunshine and a cool breeze on your face

i think armond is being sarcastic perhaps
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Delia wrote:

gwb72tii wrote: we never did see bill's Last I heard, "bill's" not running in this election. Bringing this up as if it's some sort of valid counterpoint (re: health of a candiate) doesn't reveal any more political insight than the constant mention Barack Obama's middle name. Let's do the math: If McCain is elected, he'll be a crusty 76 years old at the end of his first term...at the end of his second term, should he be that ambitious, he'll be a curmudgeonly octegenarian (80). Delia

yeh yeh yeh. reagan was too old.

how about O man being wet behind the ears too young?
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gwb72tii wrote:

Delia wrote: gwb72tii wrote: we never did see bill's Last I heard, "bill's" not running in this election. Bringing this up as if it's some sort of valid counterpoint (re: health of a candiate) doesn't reveal any more political insight than the constant mention Barack Obama's middle name. Let's do the math: If McCain is elected, he'll be a crusty 76 years old at the end of his first term...at the end of his second term, should he be that ambitious, he'll be a curmudgeonly octegenarian (80). Delia yeh yeh yeh. reagan was too old. how about O man being wet behind the ears too young?

JFK was 43 at the time he took the oath of office. If elected, Obama will be 47.

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Delia wrote:

gwb72tii wrote: Delia wrote: gwb72tii wrote: we never did see bill's Last I heard, "bill's" not running in this election. Bringing this up as if it's some sort of valid counterpoint (re: health of a candiate) doesn't reveal any more political insight than the constant mention Barack Obama's middle name. Let's do the math: If McCain is elected, he'll be a crusty 76 years old at the end of his first term...at the end of his second term, should he be that ambitious, he'll be a curmudgeonly octegenarian (80). Delia yeh yeh yeh. reagan was too old. how about O man being wet behind the ears too young? JFK was 43 at the time he took the oath of office. If elected, Obama will be 47. Delia

thank you for making my point
JFK's meeting with Kruschov is widely regarded as a disaster, which led to the soviets planting nukes in cuba, and the resulting crisis.
your man obama thinks these type of meetings are a good thing
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Delia wrote: gwb72tii wrote: Delia wrote: gwb72tii wrote: we never did see bill's Last I heard, "bill's" not running in this election. Bringing this up as if it's some sort of valid counterpoint (re: health of a candiate) doesn't reveal any more political insight than the constant mention Barack Obama's middle name. Let's do the math: If McCain is elected, he'll be a crusty 76 years old at the end of his first term...at the end of his second term, should he be that ambitious, he'll be a curmudgeonly octegenarian (80). Delia yeh yeh yeh. reagan was too old. how about O man being wet behind the ears too young? JFK was 43 at the time he took the oath of office. If elected, Obama will be 47. Delia thank you for making my point JFK's meeting with Kruschov is widely regarded as a disaster, which led to the soviets planting nukes in cuba, and the resulting crisis. your man obama thinks these type of meetings are a good thing

What point is that?

RE: The Cuban Missile Crisis. "Widely regarded as a disaster" by whom? Do you know history? Would nuclear war have been a viable alternative?

BTW, it's spelled "Khrushchev."

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why all of a sudden people are so thin skinned when Barak Hussein gets called by his real name? Geez. Bush is called a liar,terrorist and that is not even his middle name. But unlike the many bumper stickers I see in marin saying "not my president". Barak will be mine if he gets elected. Vitriol started when Bush haters couldnt live with the fact that he won twice and could not respect the results. I'm different. I will respect the results and can live with it unlike others. It's only 4 years anyway. IF he wins.
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JFK was 43 at the time he took the oath of office. If elected, Obama will be 47. Delia

jfk had spent 14 years in congress by then, and of course spring and summer 1943 in the solomons. his 43 was far more experienced than o'mans' 47.

to paraphrase bentsen- obama, you're no jack kennedy.

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Quote: JFK was 43 at the time he took the oath of office. If elected, Obama will be 47. Delia jfk had spent 14 years in congress by then, and of course spring and summer 1943 in the solomons. his 43 was far more experienced than o'mans' 47. to paraphrase bentsen- obama, you're no jack kennedy.

Glad you brought that up. It's not the years you put in -- it's what you put in the years.

Dan Quayle(R) considered himself equal with Kennedy regarding political experience when Lloyd Bentsen(D) dealt him this blow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7gpgXNWYI

Kennedy inspired an entire generation. I think we could use some of that again. Which (presumed) candidate do you think could provide that inspiration?

Hmmm...I wonder.

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i'm not dissing JFK
the meeting with Nakita was a disaster because Kennedy got taken to the cleaners. historians believe nakita badly misread jfk's resolve and though the soviets could place nukes in cuba without consequence. hence, the crisis.

O man risks the same thing. he can't read without a teleprompter for crying out loud
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He is no JFK...he may sound inspirational but I find that hard to believe. having a pastor like Jerimah Wright for 20 years. That is not inspirational.
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Delia[/quote]

Kennedy inspired an entire generation. I think we could use some of that again. Which (presumed) candidate do you think could provide that inspiration?

Hmmm...I wonder.

Delia[/quote]


neither. nor do i agree that we need an inspirational president. hitler was inspirational- so was kim il sung. it's called a personality cult.

jfk is the focus of a personality cult. his only real accomplishment was to avert ww3 over cuba, which crisis was provoked by understandable soviet mis-judgement of his character.

obama is attempting to create such a cult. he has a ready-made constituency in people of color and those who believe in the fallacy of 'multi-cultural diversity'. they love his re-spin of '60's 'social awareness' and '30's isolationism. i still want to know where he stands on reparations.

mccain is too old. once again, those who buy into the system are left with the choice of the lesser of two evils.

put simply, the question is 'who would be less disastrous as president?'

gwb72tii wrote:

i'm not dissing JFK the meeting with Nakita was a disaster because Kennedy got taken to the cleaners. historians believe nakita badly misread jfk's resolve and though the soviets could place nukes in cuba without consequence. hence, the crisis.

Is that proof or merely your opinion?

Wikipedia (Cliff Notes for Historians) says this:

"The perception was that Kennedy had won the contest between the superpowers and Khrushchev had been humiliated. However this is not entirely the case as both Kennedy and Khrushchev took every step to avoid full out conflict despite the pressures of people in their governments. Khrushchev would hold on to power for another two years.[28]"

Sounds like it took some diplomacy to avoid the crisis.

Read the rest of the the Cliff notes here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

BTW: it's spelled "Nikita."

Delia

PS. About McCain vs Obama's use of "teleprompters" --that's new topic.
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