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Date: 8-29-07 07:55
From: pissdrunx321 in Orlando, FL View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

[b]OK so this is officially my very first BMW 2002. It is a 1973 and i got it for $1,000.00. I finally gave the guy the rest of the money for it this afternoon. Since i'm only 19 I don't have alot of money right now. Im selling my 1995 318i on saturday though to go towards this car. But anyways since i'm new to the whole owning a 2002 thing ive posted some pictures of the car so you guys tell me what you think...i.e. did i get a good deal,what i need to look out for,give me some '02 advice or any other helpful '02 tips. Thanks guys. -Ian

P.S. the car is not running yet due to a bad distributor(points) and the passenger window doesn't roll up all the way.
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Date: 8-29-07 08:04
From: Otis View user's profile
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

Nice price. But I've seen those seats somewhere before . . .


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Date: 8-29-07 08:07
From: ray_koke in Tianjin View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

Interesting. That appears to be a euro. Post the VIN.

Probably worth the price, depending on rust.

Comfy interior :D

Cheers,

Ray
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Date: 8-29-07 08:24
From: dubois in Hollister, (near SJ) California View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

each 2002 is very unique, no two are alike, that is for sure.

Congratulations, and welcome to the wonderful world of 2002's.

My only advice is to purchase a fire extinguisher, and a quick disconnect for the battery. These cars electrical, after 35 years, can catch on fire very easily.

The seats are... interesting, never seen those before. The car has a sunroof too, nice.

The front strut mounts need replacing, before you attempt to take this car even for a test drive. Your first 02 experience should be a safe one.
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Date: 8-29-07 08:24
From: scestes in Bay Area, CA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

Welcome to 02 ownership dude. Looks like you probably got a decent deal on the car. Go through and look under all the carpet panels for rust. Examine the pedal box right away and see how much rust there is around it. Spare tire well is another one. Inventory the car to see where you need to address issues. Make lists of things to do and prioritize them in order of importance, and what you can afford. If you don't keep a list, you'll lose track of things. Trust me. I've kept lots of lists :) Post your progress bud, I'd be interested in seeing what that car looks like under that paint job. You can spot severe bondo areas with fridge magnets. If the magnet doesn't stick, it's got bondo covering something.
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Date: 8-29-07 08:49
From: keninmorganhill View user's profile
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

Look's pretty decent to me. I too would be concerned about rust if there's any. The body look's to be very nice and straight. Possibly a re-paint not too long ago. From the pics, it look's nice.

I will say this though.. "and sorry about this, but.." Dude! You have pillows for seats. ;-)

Welcome to the club!

- KeninMorganill



Date: 8-29-07 08:57
From: cj in the BMW Sauber F1 car View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

I've never seen an underhood light(mounted where the horn relay usually is). Pretty cool.


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Date: 8-29-07 09:14
From: otto in Bay Area View user's profile
Subject: Welcome to the 2002 community!

I bought my first one in 2002 and have found that I love the people that are in to these cars. MUCH different breed than the vintage mustang community from where I came just before this, and that's a good thing;)

Folks on this board are very knowledgeable about these cars and there's tons of great info in the archives. Use the Site Search feature (upper right) when you've got a specific question in mind - you'll be surprised at how much detail there is in the forum already.

Your car looks like a good deal to me. Rust is a big enemy, check it out for that. Very cool that it's a euro car. Those front turn signal lenses are worth at least $100 - $150 alone. Everyone has their own feelings about what is more desirable in cosmetics and performance, but all of us love to drive them!

Have fun!
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Date: 8-29-07 09:45
From: Benz02 View user's profile
Subject: Re: Welcome to the 2002 community!

I think you got a great deal, as it looks to be a euro version. I dig the hood emblam and the interior center console.



Date: 8-29-07 10:46
From: Vroomer in Injected with a poison View user's profile
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

1st, welcome to the mad house!

2nd, don't blame us for your sick disease!!!
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Date: 8-30-07 04:52
From: mike in Beavercreek, OH View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Welcome to the 02 ownership world. I too have a '73, altho

I've only owned it since 1978...that's a very good year for '02s...last of the roundies, with most of the improvements that the squarelights have without the extra 200 lbs of bumpers and body reinforcements to support the bumpers.

Check the board archives for lotsa good 2002 information; if you can't find what you're looking for, post your question.

Wish there had been 2002s when I was 19 or I wouldnt' have started off my car mania with Renaults!

cheers
mike
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Date: 8-30-07 05:14
From: c.d.iesel in South West Connecticut - Darien = The Right Coast View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: CHECK OUT MY new CAR..............? ..... . . . . . .

first - weather you 'got a good deal' only matters to you.
You paid $1000 so you must feel comfortible with your purchase.
It's very exciting and 'could' be a great learning LESSON.

If nothing comes of driving this car - you at least gained great
TV room seats. You also gained a EURO model with EURO gauges and heater controls. Rare in the USA - but doesn't get it running for you
does it? Someone in FLA. is very happy this morning having cleaned out the yard and house.

$1000 would have been fair for a DRIVING CAR, ONE THAT YOU CAN GET ON
THE HIGHWAY AND DRIVE IN A STRAIGHT
LINE AT 80 MPH, COME TO MANY STOPS
WITHOUT VIBRATIONS OR WANDERING,
GAUGES AND WIPERS WORKING, PASS
YOUR STATES SAFETY INSPECTION, AND
EVEN WITH THE RUST THAT AWAITS YOU
UNDERNEATH THE BARK-O-LOUNGER SEATING.
But this car is Tin Worm food for the moment.
Do Not Sell your other BMW !
Do Not Buy any parts for this car till you install
the distributor, get the motor running, drive the
car 100 miles, and sit down with a note book
and list all the repairs needed. Really look hard
at this body with the car supported on 4-jack-stands,
wheels off and with bight light and inspect
every inch from underneath. Mechanical components,
and body !

Come back after your 100 mile road test with
your report and new detailed photos.

Do Not Sell Your Other BMW !


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Date: 8-30-07 07:02
From: kris in Toronto View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

I have a stereo head unit you can have for free. kris.c.tobias at gmail.com

Those are the best seats I've ever seen
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Date: 8-30-07 07:21
From: Lars in Kansas City, MO View user's profile
Subject: I agree with CD...

these things can hide problems really good. Of course some like that air filter stick right out :)

I noticed it has a nice exhaust header. It is running the stock solex though?

For the dizzy you probably only need a cap and rotor, maybe plug wires. Maybe a coil.
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Date: 8-30-07 08:10
From: winstontj in 02129 View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

OK this is going to be a LONG reply but hey I took the time to do this so you better read :-)

Don't mind CD - he can come off harsh but he extremely knowlegable and has access to dealer info - and he's owned & worked on our cars for possibly longer than you have been alive...

I think that you got yourself a good deal. I am in Boston so it's hard to find a rust free car. Some will come down on the interior but it's unique so don't worry about it. Also... LOL... that yellow air cleaner adds 5hp just because it's yellow! Don't fall into that trap of MUST HAVe WEBER 32/36!!! - I like my single bbl solex on my 71 better than my weber 32/36 on the 74 I owned. Just get it running and drive it for a while before you start thinking about performance upgrades. Focus on safety first, get your manuals and books, do LOTS of searching and research on the internet and buy the 2002 Restoration guide (read it every night before bed for a week) and you'll be on track. Your car has some problems & some rust and I'm sure there is more under that somewhat shotty respray but you could be plesantly suprised... Here goes nothing... I stole your pictures and did some editing to make things easier...


This makes me feel like your car has never been hit. The curved circles on the sides of the radiator will usually be bent up and mangled if the car has ever rear-ended someone. They look really good... (I like red... too bad they painted it... :-( ) The rust in the circle by the left front blinker speaks for itself - you'll want to get that taken care of sooner or later. Don't worry about it - it is common and you can still get new or used fenders cheap if you wait for the right time. I'd check under the passenger side though - could be something that you could put a stop to before it gets out of hand. Pull the blinker(Carefully) and take a look under there. Leave the driver's side for now - it will just fall apart if you try to take it apart...


Check out your rear window gasket. it's going to be REALLY brittle, probably leak in the rain and need replacing. You can tell from the browned lock strip that has shrunk back. Also you will probably notice it's cracked and split up top and down bottom... Eventually - not needed ASAP but something to do soon as well. Rust can lurke under the rear corners.

GOOD NEWS!!! rear shock towers look A-OK. When you get the time pull the back seat and check from the inside. They can go from the inside too but usually if they are that clean out back they should be pretty solid from the inside too. Nice job getting clean towers. more evidence of a shotty paint job is the green circles by the trunk gasket (paint chipping off) and by the rear window - I wonder what that line is... I hope not a bondo line under paint...


This picture is interesting. You should have verticle holes where the red lines are that the front bumper mounts go into. Does the PO have the bumper with the car (hopefully)? Also I don't see tow hooks (where the circles are).. they should stick out from the ends of the subframe just under the valance - strange... possibly just the light. That front valance (the black part) usually rots out pretty badly. It's possible that it has been repaired or that the car had hit something due to the lack of tow loops, bumepr mount holes and the nice front valance but it will take more inspection. Climb underneath and look for the back side of the holes. Look on the web for photos of what I mean by bumper mount holes. If that is all clean metal up there then you have another very good aspect of the car.


The arrow points to the subframe carrier mounts. Judging by your front strut tower mounts I'd say that you'll want to replace your carrier mounts ASAP as well... They are the can looking things that are oversprayed...
Look for rust under the paint where the circles are. more up front in the wheel well than in the rear. that area above and around the carrier mounts and in the rocker (the black panel that runs under the door) are known for getting really rusty. Yours looks good - but it could be paper thin bondo... Only jack the car up and place jack stands on the subframes and avoid the front frame rails until you do more inspection.


Look for rust under the gas pedal. Don't pull it up off the balls - it may not go back on... look from underneath for rust along the frame rail and in the pedal box. Also look right below the hood latch where the floor meets the kick panel on the side (where a left foot dead pedal would go). There is usually rust here...


Look for bubbles or little rust spots along the base of the rear window under the open/close latch. They all tend to go here and if you have a respray it may bubble up soon. Also look for rust along that rocker panel under the door. they go all the time and are always neglected. yours could be solid but you won't know until you get in there and start digging. Start up by the front fender and work your way back. Look for bondo, fiberglass or any holes. New rockers are pretty cheap but it's a BIG job. - save for later - just assess the situation and know for now.


Look at the base of the window gasket, under the blinkers and at that front valance for rust.


#1 - you have a header under there... SCORE! that's a cool little add on. Not sure what kind it is... Look at where the 4 tubes come together (by the collector) and check for a stamp like Ansa, Stahl, etc. and also measure the primary tubes and post that up. See the cracks in the strut bearings??? that is very bad... just don't drive it a long distance... they are about $30 each and should be replaced ASAP...

Anyone know what those little hoels are for? I thought washer nozzle holes but they are somewhere else...

notice the tape or bulge in the wire going from your coil to the distributor? That's bad and should probably be replaced unless the picture just looks funny... Also look under the carb at the fuel pump (circled)... looks like there are no fuel lines hooked up from the fuel pump to the carb or the fuel line (from the tank) to the pump... It looks really clean and really stock under there. Might be a good time to replace the ignition system with stock points, condensor, replace with new BMW coil and replace plugs and wires... Bet it would fire right up... Pull the valve cover (the 8 or so bolts on top) and take some pictures of the rockers and cam. We'll be able to tell more about the motor that way. You could have a cam under there with that header...


Hope this helped... Welcome to the maddness.... they are fun little cars and if you know how to turn a wrench then you'll be all set. I'd take CD's advice and DO NOT SELL YOUR e36... Once you start digging into this you'll be happy to have reliable transportation through the initial refreshening process that this car will need.... Also look at the flexable brake lines - they tend to bulge up and be dangerous. Stock replacements are cheap - under $50 for the car while SS braided lines are ~$100 for the car.... Good luck!!!
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Date: 8-30-07 11:14
From: pissdrunx321 in Orlando, FL View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

I appreciate all the help man. ill start working on some of that stuff this weekend. and ill post more pictures periodically. ill ask for help through the way too because im not as educated on these cars as you guys are. Thanks man. -Ian P.S. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE ELSE'S HELP AND TIPS. THANKS GUYS.
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Date: 8-30-07 11:27
From: SteveJ in Dublin, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

winstontj wins the prize for best reply post to a newbie!
Chockful of information.

The two small holes in the top of the firewall were most likely mounting holes for a strut bar. There were a couple of models in the early 80's that had a couple of mounting tabs up there.

My advice for any newbie- concentrate on safety and reliability items- stopping, starting, turning, etc... BEFORE you even think of go-fast parts. Take your time, ride in other peoples 2002s, and then make a plan to build your car the way you want it.

I sunk several thousands of dollars and hours into my first 02 with flared fenders, trick motor, suspension, etc, etc, etc... Yes, it was fun. Yes, I learned a lot. Yes, it got many compliments. But, you know what? I had more fun trashing the autocross course in a bone-stock, $500 2002 with skinny tires. Having that car taught me a lot about being smooth and working with the car to get where I wanted to go.
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Date: 8-30-07 11:30
From: zturnidge View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

Wow. that last post is great you just answered so many questions for me.



Date: 8-30-07 01:54
From: esty View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

don't let these smucks bust your chops or bubble about your seats, i love them and would love to have them....as a matter of fact, if you decide to go with a bitchin nice set of original early black seats, i'd swap with you...my email address is on the door
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Date: 8-30-07 07:01
From: 76duece in Westchester, NY. Land of SUVs View user's profile
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

BIGHT LIGHT??????????



Date: 8-30-07 07:51
From: Harv in Willoughby Oh. View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

I'm not sure but I think those seats are from a Renault Fuego, Rover? Citroen?
Good score on the steering wheel. Looks like there are a few positives. Watch out for rust. Take it from me, you don't want to fix a rusty car.
Have fun and don't sell your E36.

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Date: 8-31-07 02:03
From: Biscuit3 in Sydney, Australia View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

Bro, you might also want to get some paint thinner for that front grille, it should be chrome, not black. Like a few suggested, google "1973 BMW 2002" and look at the pictures. Then you'll know how good your grille can really look.

You also live where Jim Morrison grew up. So he'd be proud if you called your new car "Jim", I'm pretty sure.
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Date: 8-31-07 07:07
From: pissdrunx321 in Orlando, FL View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: CHECK OUT MY NEW CAR******

I lived about 3 blocks from the school he graduated from...Melbourne High which is now the Hennager Center and its haunted. pretty cool i guess


Biscuit3 wrote:
Bro, you might also want to get some paint thinner for that front grille, it should be chrome, not black. Like a few suggested, google "1973 BMW 2002" and look at the pictures. Then you'll know how good your grille can really look.

You also live where Jim Morrison grew up. So he'd be proud if you called your new car "Jim", I'm pretty sure.

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