since he was found guilty of crimes against fellow Faq'rs he's been plying his trade HERE

he'll see your post here too..he still lurks here...a lot

the best you can hope for is nothing at all...you did business with a thief and a deadbeat

I was on the same boat with someone else. I paid. Was promised goods and seller never had them delivered to me. I filed a claim through Paypal. Less than 10 days later my money is back into my account. You should still have time to recoop your dough. I know you guys want to believe that your carpet may someday arrive, but lets not dream. If he had intentions of delivering he would have. Now the crook has nothing to loose. Remember that he is not the only game around. That dude should be in jail making plates instead of carpets!!!!!

File a dispute and get your money back before it is too late!!!!!!!

Esty,

Thanks for looking out for the folks that are still honest. There is nothing wrong with that;)

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I'm sure you'll get it eventually.

yeah, i'm waiting on a set too, but i figured it would take 3 months when i put the order in. if it doesn't show up in the next few weeks i'll put in a dispute with my CC company. but i've never had an issue with al and i'm never in a rush for stuff like this.

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Unbelivable. I dont comprehend his business practices. Totaly irresponsible.
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First of all, esty....go jump off a bridge as your self-righteousness continues to foul up the joint. What's the matter...not enough drama around here for you of late?

While your (repeated) warnings, are useful to some extent, people can/will make up their own minds. He owns a Volvo by the way, that's why he's on the other board. Geeze...(p)esty.....are you stalking him throughout the Net?

<sarcasm> I'm SO happy we have someone like you serving as the "guardian angel" warning each and every poor unsuspecting victim. Sigh, my hero! </sarcasm>

But....here's the real reason for my (expected) counter.

People will make their own mind up whether or not they want to do business with him. I know I did........ So, in order to back up my own lengthy prose (and defense of Al) on this subject, I *bid* on the very last carpet set he mentioned having available to sell.

I offered $125 for the carpet set and well, won. Accordingly, I donated that $125 to the FAQ. The money didn't go to Al. He mentioned via a FAQ thread that the proceeds from this last set would go to the FAQ.

Well, I'm waiting too. But, I'm in Brad's position and am not in a hurry to receive the carpet set. I still believe that I will indeed, see it. I will post when it arrives and I'll also post, if it doesn't.

A thief is a different beast, than an uncommunicative inefficient business owner. I'd only stoop to calling a person a thief if/when I saw them running off with my property and if/when I never got my product. Admittedly, I'm not sure how to exactly define, "never"

I'll let you know if I eventually need to change my tune on that one, but I still think I'll get what I paid for. If not, the FAQ got $125...and that's a good thing.

Jerry
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Heads up folks. If you sent payment by Paypal, and expect them to get your money back, you need to file a claim within 45 days ( as best I remember). I paid Al $189 July 19 for a seat cover and waited too long to file a claim. I have asked Al to refund my money, as I can't wait any longer. I think 7 months is long enough and I am going another direction.
Guess what... no refund, no response, no seat cover ! Is anyone here surprised ?
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jwcurry wrote:

First of all, esty....go jump off a bridge no..i won't as your self-righteousness continues to foul up the joint. the self righteous bit's getting as old as the lame crap you say i do...come up with something fresh jer What's the matter...not enough drama around here for you of late? as a matter of fact no...thanks for askin jer While your (repeated) warnings, are useful to some extent, people can/will make up their own minds. He owns a Volvo by the way, that's why he's on the other board. Geeze...(p)esty.....are you stalking him hroughout the Net? no sir...but i did get sebveral emails from members here telling me that's where he is...i save the link for times like this <sarcasm> I'm SO happy we have someone like you serving as the "guardian angel" warning each and every poor unsuspecting victim. Sigh, my hero! </sarcasm> thanks jer...buy i ain't all that But....here's the real reason for my (expected) counter. People will make their own mind up whether or not they want to do business with him. I know I did........ So, in order to back up my own lengthy prose (and defense of Al) on this subject, I *bid* on the very last carpet set he mentioned having available to sell. I offered $125 for the carpet set and well, won. Accordingly, I donated that $125 to the FAQ. The money didn't go to Al. He mentioned via a FAQ thread that the proceeds from this last set would go to the FAQ. Well, I'm waiting too. But, I'm in Brad's position and am not in a hurry to receive the carpet set. I still believe that I will indeed, see it. I will post when it arrives and I'll also post, if it doesn't. A thief is a different beast, than an uncommunicative inefficient business owner. I'd only stoop to calling a person a thief if/when I saw them running off with my property and if/when I never got my product. Admittedly, I'm not sure how to exactly define, "never" I'll let you know if I eventually need to change my tune on that one, but I still think I'll get what I paid for. If not, the FAQ got $125...and that's a good thing. my hats off to you jer....you're some kind of frikin hero now, i reckon that makes you a do gooder...good for you jer...now keep the chin up dude...you only wanted FAQ to get some bucks...you din't really need that rug anyway....say, should we start calling you robin hood? Jerry

talking about a piece of shit will always bring mr curry out of hiding...HI JER...

Waiting as well, carpet set was a Christmas gift for a friend of mine (insert I told you so joke here...)
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(p)esty......At the very least, I've donated $125 to the FAQ, which I think is at least 125X of the positive impact that you've had around here.

By the way, haven't been hiding....been here all along and have even been posting from time to time.

Once again, I find it an amazing degree of gall to call someone a "piece of shit or a thief, no matter what they threw back at you. I've also admitted what was thrown back at you was totally unacceptable. Sometimes it's just good to be the better person, even moreso when multiple forum people ask that of you.

Smooches.....
Jerry
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jwcurry wrote:

(p)esty......At the very least, I've donated $125 to the FAQ, which I think is at least 125X of the positive impact that you've had around here. you doing the thinkin for the whole forum now jer... By the way, haven't been hiding....been here all along and have even been posting from time to time. Once again, I find it an amazing degree of gall to call someone a "piece of shit or a thief, no matter what they threw back at you. jer...if you're talkin about larson...that's exactly what he is...a worthless piece of shit and a convicted thief I've also admitted what was thrown back at you was totally unacceptable. Sometimes it's just good to be the better person, even more so when multiple forum people ask that of you. Smooches.....back at you jer... Jerry

We had almost 90$ iirc donated just so Al would shove your carpet kit up his ass.

To think we were that close to winning, damn.

BTW you can also find AL over at Bimmerforums. You should see the IMs I got from him ( I'll keep them private as his hole wouldn't get any deeper anyway )

Sorry to hear you guys are still waiting on him, must have spent some time off work stretching his bunghole just in case. That must be the reason for the latest delay. Woooooosh ( sorry Al passed gas )
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Wat else did you expect from an arrogant scumbag son of a bitch like this guy in Surrey, BC.

Arshloch wrote:

Wat else did you expect from an arrogant scumbag son of a bitch like this guy in Surrey, BC.

i see you know the deadbeat too...my condolences

mr pig...had i known we were that close, i'd have tossed more in the collection plate...sorry

Pinepig.......that's pretty funny.

Yep....$125 to $90. You all were close. ;-)

Glad the FAQ got over $200 that month from all of us.

(p)esty writes: "you doing the thinkin for the whole forum now jer""

Nope, just a strong majority......although I bet that's shrunk rather severely after a lot of facts came out. Still doesn't support your lack of decorum though, (p)est.

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i got my carpet kit mid-january.

now, i'm not gonna SAY that it had anything to do with me initiating a 'notice of intent' with Paypal before the 45 day expiration date occurred.

BUT,

it wasn't long after that, before i actually received my FIRST email from Al acknowledging my order and wondering why i filed first before trying to contact him. i very politely replied that i was merely protecting my interests in that i was under a 45 day time limit and that i hoped he would understand.

to his credit, he accepted my explanation and i received the carpet before the deadline for me to file a formal claim.

our email exchanges were courteous and 'matter-of-fact', and i made it clear that i was only filing so that i would not forfeit my right to file.

for those who haven't initiated a notice with paypal within the 45 day limit, i extend my sincerest wishes on your behalf.

how would one file a claim when you took a carpet set to alleviate a debt the carpet maker owed you? i think im fucked. oh well. one more vendor added to my blacklist along with wayzata amoco,rainbow foods, officemax and many more
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jwcurry wrote:

Still doesn't support your lack of decorum though, (p)est. Jerry

whoever said i had any decorum...? i wouldn't touch decorum with your hands jer

BLUNT wrote:

oh well. one more vendor added to my blacklist along with wayzata amoco,rainbow foods, officemax and many more

you got mississippi money didn't you mr?

jwcurry wrote:

Nope, just a strong majority...... Jerry

Don't make any false assumptions that it is a majority when you don't know for sure.
My guess is that the majority sways the other way, and your mindless drivel isn't helping Al or anyone else at all.

No false assumption made..........

There's actually quantitative proof. There was a *fun* poll to ban esty. Whoops, I was wrong.....not to ban barely won. There were also less than 40 votes. I stand 100% corrected. But, do you really think the majority of FAQ'ers like the sniping and the fighting? I think people like to know that a vendor isn't delivering. I grant that point, all night long.

By the way, I'm not defending Al, nor do I think I'm doing him any good. I can't defend the indefensible. Simply put, he HAS to back-end deliver everything he's sold. Barring that, he's pretty much on the outs......even with me, since I'm now in the queue. That's why I put myself in the queue because even I need proof now, that he'll deliver.

I'll miss the $125, but that's a small amount versus what I would have sunk for a wool headliner, wool carpet, recovered Recaros, and a full install.


Jerry
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jwcurry wrote:

But, do you really think the majority of FAQ'ers like the sniping and the fighting? Jerry

yes...most people do enjoy a good snipe fest

Can you please call someone for once their proper name?
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jwcurry wrote:

No false assumption made.......... There's actually quantitative proof. There was a *fun* poll to ban esty. Whoops, I was wrong.....not to ban barely won. There were also less than 40 votes. I stand 100% corrected. But, do you really think the majority of FAQ'ers like the sniping and the fighting? I think people like to know that a vendor isn't delivering. I grant that point, all night long. By the way, I'm not defending Al, nor do I think I'm doing him any good. I can't defend the indefensible. Simply put, he HAS to back-end deliver everything he's sold. Barring that, he's pretty much on the outs......even with me, since I'm now in the queue. That's why I put myself in the queue because even I need proof now, that he'll deliver. I'll miss the $125, but that's a small amount versus what I would have sunk for a wool headliner, wool carpet, recovered Recaros, and a full install. Jerry

its so funny because you have to wonder how much business all this has driven towards al: yourself and probably many others as well! it just proves theres no such thing as bad publicity! maybe now it will finally stick, however. .,...... he MUST be good if people are actually signing up just to be ripped off!! ;-p


i recall al once saying he was going to put a carpet set on ebay for the jenna fund... i guess it woulda been nice to actually have a carpet set for lisa (if i had a choice that is). ACTUALLY and ive told al this myself, ive always wanted to actually make my OWN carpet set. I learned to sew in Sports Sewing in seventh grade, and have always liked it. making a badass set of seats and carpet for the car would just be killer... if i could pull it off. i find that most stuff like that if you just step back and go at it step by step and if all else fails, trial and error at least eats up a lot of time... :P
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and it will not allow me to login. i just gotta say something, for the sake of this little spot on the web i love so much. the constant bad attitude is gonna kill this.
i am suprised the keepers of the flame keep it going, when a guy cannot even put pic of his OWN car on without people starting to bicker over it.
this carpet dude burnt his own bridges and its up to the folks who have put money on the table as to how they want to play their cards.
c'mon folks! this place is about the cars we love! lets respect it.
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Tem miles from ALBANY NY. I couldn't bring myself to offer you help. Too much Al and esty stuff on this board.
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and it will not allow me to login. i just gotta say something, for the sake of this little spot on the web i love so much. the constant bad attitude is gonna kill this. i am suprised the keepers of the flame keep it going, when a guy cannot even put pic of his OWN car on without people starting to bicker over it. this carpet dude burnt his own bridges and its up to the folks who have put money on the table as to how they want to play their cards. c'mon folks! this place is about the cars we love! lets respect it. sincerely, nate in buffalo aka 2761876

i hate to say it but like it or not its part of the wallpaper around here. i say that having battled it myself, even going so far as creating a TOILET for the more-idiotic personal attacks to go into. but this is not my mess, or esty's mess (well, alright :P), but this is 95% al's mess. there are classes you can take on how to operate a checkbook and SOMEONE there knows how to put stuff (such as refund checks) into envelopes and mail them.

Al got his start on this board; his business(es) would not exist without it. well, maybe, but anyways, i will re-phrase what ive said before (and have been loosely paraphrased on): all of this mess would go away if Al would step up and CLEAN UP HIS MESS. If anyone egged it on it was al's christmas tatoo posting... wow.

despite esty's psychostalker style, turns out she was right. stupid part is it probably all backfired and al got far more business than he (apparently) could/would/whatever deliver on, on top of all the other stuff fitting that category reaching back years and years!

now, its about seven am and i havent slept yet, jenna finally nodded off at about 5:30 but perhaps my reasoning is a lil off... you tell me. i can see this issue from many angles as ive been stalked on the internet myself, and attacked in an insane way by esty before, more than once!

Aside: my former internet follower-arounder and i actually get along fairly well these days, shocks of all shocking news, and chat often in IRC. not that im saying its ok, just that its possible to move on.

alright i can actually FEEL that im not making any sense now. a lot of stuff has been going on with jenna, many many many doctors trips and pharmacy visits and insurance company phone calls, all of which is actually working out fantastically at the moment! i have also been seeing a psych for a bipolar condition ive had my whole life apparently and not known it, or mighta known it but not understood it enough to take care of it or recognize ... stuff. it has semiprofound implications for a lot of stuff that has gone on, and now that it is finally starting to be treated i am actually fairly excited about the future.

i have to correct myself, jenna had a bit of fairly devastating news: we had her brain scanned due to her headaches issues and they found that she has significant atrophying in one of her frontal lobes, a remnant of the damage from the impact and resulting toxic condition in the brain (which they try to manage with anti-tox chemistry in the immediate aftermath)... wow, anyways, it brought back the last time they showed me a brain scan which was when she was still in the NICU. i guess people even have lobotomys and go on with their lives but it still shook me. there is so much she has gone through and will always have to go through, and SOMETIMES it gets to me. i guess i should save all this for the blog but then even i wouldnt read it... :P

all that is to say, there will at some point be flowers blooming and birds chirping and a brief period of weeks before crushing summer global warming murderheat descends upon us like a polished stainless-steel tenderizing mallet, so lets all get along and hold hands and agree to disagree and love our 02s and ... maybe get some sleep now that its seven in the morning... :P

and maybe al will learn how to operate a checkbook and stamps dispenser, and END this long faqtional nightmare once and for all! :PP
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Tem miles from ALBANY NY. I couldn't bring myself to offer you help. Too much Al and esty stuff on this board.

give a round of applause to the martyr that waded thru all my crap to bring attention to himself

YOU GO DUDE