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Date: 1-11-07 11:33
From: Dirt in VA

Subject: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

I didn’t see a thread about this yet, so I guess I’ll post it up. If I’m repeating something someone already posted, sorry for the duplicate.

I was very interested to see the article in the January 2007 issue of Classic Motorsports about BMW building a “new” 2002. In order to show their continued support for older models, BMW took a new chassis that they found in England and built it up with all new parts from the Mobile Tradition catalogue. The build took place in a glassed in shop at BMW HQ. The end result was a brand new 1973 BMW 2002 Tii. 91% of the parts came straight from the Mobile Tradition catalogue.

The author of the article took the car for a test drive. It had about 1500 miles on it when he took it out. He loved it and lamented that BMW hasn’t brought it back.

Pete
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1975 2002: Project Rust Bucket
1990 VW Corrado G60
2003 VW 20th Anniversary GTI

Date: 1-11-07 12:21
From: 02nut in SoCal

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

The "new" Tii toured the US last summer & fall. I saw it at the Monterey Historic races last August and I heard it was also at Lime Rock last September. It's a sweet car.

A number of magazines were invited to drive the car and several articles have popped up about the car (Automobile Jan 2007?).

For all the effort from Mobile Tradition on building a "new" '02, I find it ironic MT hasn't made a bigger effort to reach out to the '02 crowd about their achievement (i.e. a full list of available '02 related parts)

My .02 worth.
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Andy W.
'72 Tii
'74 Tii
'88 M3 (Auto-X/Track Car)

Date: 1-11-07 12:46 From: ccr2002 in Salt Lake City, Utah Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.
There is also an article in the new Automoblile about the car. A lot of pics. nice car... ccr _________________ 1973 polaris/blue 2002tii 2763408 1973 3.0 CS ceylon/black 2240405 2000 G500

Date: 1-11-07 03:40 From: Senna27 in Toronto Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.
Is there a website with pics? _________________ The Toys: 1975 - 2002 - Jade - Daily Driver 1975 Honda CB400F 2005 Toyota Matrix XR - Winter Beater Remember: RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR

Date: 1-11-07 05:32
From: Benz02

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

I saw it in Monterey too...nice ride. One thing that some of the articles have been leaving out is that the shell was a squarie (a '74 I think), which BMW cut the back off of, and replaced with a roundie section. The articles have also been iconsistent with the sum total cost of the parts used, ranging from around $90,000 to $150,000. One writer went so far as to comment that the gear lever buzzed annoyingly and that the cabin noise was too loud...though most wrote flattering reviews.

Date: 1-11-07 05:50
From: DB in Oz

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

There is video footage of the build somewhere in three instalments. I am currently are work so I cannot help at the mo. It's possibly youtube. I'll post links if I can find them.

Edit: Here are the links to the video. Enjoy ...

www.wesat-tv.de/mm/BMW2002tii-1.wmv
http://www.wesat-tv.de/mm/BMW2002tii-2.wmv
http://www.wesat-tv.de/mm/BMW2002tii-3.wmv

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Date: 1-11-07 05:50
From: Dirt in VA

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

Senna27 wrote:

Is there a website with pics?

I haven't found any on the web. Sorry.
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1975 2002: Project Rust Bucket
1990 VW Corrado G60
2003 VW 20th Anniversary GTI

Date: 1-11-07 05:54
From: MikeG in Monterey Calif

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

Here it is @ Historics in Monterey
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1975 2002 Factory Turbo
1974 3.5 CSI {3rd last car to come to the US}
1960 Mercedes 220SE 2 Dr Coupe--1 of 830 produced
1997 porsche Twin Turbo 408 HP 18,000 miles
2000 Toyoto Tundra [Pinball hauler]

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Date: 1-11-07 06:04
From: MikeG in Monterey Calif

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

More pics.That is my good freind ,the Famous Carl Nelson standing next to it. Enjoy
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1975 2002 Factory Turbo
1974 3.5 CSI {3rd last car to come to the US}
1960 Mercedes 220SE 2 Dr Coupe--1 of 830 produced
1997 porsche Twin Turbo 408 HP 18,000 miles
2000 Toyoto Tundra [Pinball hauler]

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Date: 1-11-07 06:52
From: Senna27 in Toronto

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

MikeG wrote:

Here it is @ Historics in Monterey

Thanks for the pics... Very nice indeed... But would somebody please lower the passenger side windshield wiper... It's driving me nuts!!!
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The Toys:

1975 - 2002 - Jade - Daily Driver
1975 Honda CB400F
2005 Toyota Matrix XR - Winter Beater

Remember: RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR

Date: 1-11-07 07:15
From: MikeG in Monterey Calif

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

Senna 27
You got to love that Jade Green.Here is a picture of my Jade Green 3.5 CSI.I have owned it for 28 years.3rd last car to come to the US.Didn't mean to Hi jack the tread
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1975 2002 Factory Turbo
1974 3.5 CSI {3rd last car to come to the US}
1960 Mercedes 220SE 2 Dr Coupe--1 of 830 produced
1997 porsche Twin Turbo 408 HP 18,000 miles
2000 Toyoto Tundra [Pinball hauler]

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Date: 1-11-07 07:40 From: eastsidebimmer in Indianapolis, Indiana Subject: Sorry--the wiper position is correct
Mike Self can explain...... Ben _________________ 1968 -BMW- 2002 HALT - GARAGE - FAHRT - START

Date: 1-11-07 09:30 From: Delia in "Don't call it 'Frisco'" Subject: Re: Sorry--the wiper position is correct
Here is the correct wiper position... ...just like the MT car. Delia _________________ 1973 2002tii Inka (aka "Orange Julius") VIN 2762756 1974 2002tii - damaged Polaris (aka "Mae West") VIN 2782824 BMW CCA member #1974 www.oldschoolbmw.com deliawolfe@gmail.com

Date: 1-11-07 10:59 From: auggiemize in NC Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.
Hey MikeG, Sorry to hijack your hijack; finishing up my interior on the coupe, and curious about your seat specs.Beautiful e9! dvdesignATcharterDOTnet Drop me a note if you dont mind, thanks, Dave in NC

Date: 1-11-07 11:46
From: Jim_75Sahara in Kettering, OH

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

The newest issue of Roundel has Mike Self's article about the MT inka tii. He drove it when he went to Lime Rock. I am biased, but his write-up is the definitive one. He bought a brand new 02 in '69 & has kept it running strong to this day, therefore he has quite a perspective on new 02's and well-used ones. Great stunt pulled off by the BMW guys. I don't expect Ford to build us a mid-60's Mustang, do you?? Or a 60's VW Beetle??
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1975 Sahara 2002 ('Dieter')

Date: 1-12-07 01:17
From: Senna27 in Toronto

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

MikeG wrote:

Senna 27
You got to love that Jade Green.Here is a picture of my Jade Green 3.5 CSI.I have owned it for 28 years.3rd last car to come to the US.Didn't mean to Hi jack the tread

I don't think adding a reply & posting a pic requires an apology... At least I hope not, because then I'm really behind!

Yours is very nice indeed! I'd love to have a pic of both of our cars together!

I've had mine for 25 years now!
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The Toys:

1975 - 2002 - Jade - Daily Driver
1975 Honda CB400F
2005 Toyota Matrix XR - Winter Beater

Remember: RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR

Date: 1-12-07 01:18
From: Senna27 in Toronto

Subject: Re: Sorry--the wiper position is correct

eastsidebimmer wrote:

Mike Self can explain......

Ben

Really! I'm still not changing mine! lol
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The Toys:

1975 - 2002 - Jade - Daily Driver
1975 Honda CB400F
2005 Toyota Matrix XR - Winter Beater

Remember: RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR

Date: 1-12-07 08:27
From: mike in Beavercreek, OH

Subject: If it was positioned any lower, it wouldn't properly meet

the swept area that the driver's side wiper clears--rather it be positioned a little high than leave an uncleared spot in the middle of the windshield!

That's the way my '69 was delivered; when I repositioned it, I discovered the above and returned it to its original position. Even more pronounced with the 13 inch blades on the early cars...

mike
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'69 Nevada sunroof--"Wolfgang"--bought new
'73 Sahara sunroof-- "Ludwig"--mine since '78
'87 eta E30 coupe--"Johannes"
+ Fiat Topolini (Benito & Luigi), Renault 4CVs (Anatole, Lucky Pierre, Brigette)...
and Kermit, the Bugeye Sprite

Date: 1-12-07 09:20
From: Senna27 in Toronto

Subject: Re: If it was positioned any lower, it wouldn't properly meet

mike wrote:

the swept area that the driver's side wiper clears--rather it be positioned a little high than leave an uncleared spot in the middle of the windshield!

mike

Really, my wipers clear the entire windshield just fine as they are!
_________________
The Toys:

1975 - 2002 - Jade - Daily Driver
1975 Honda CB400F
2005 Toyota Matrix XR - Winter Beater

Remember: RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR

Date: 1-12-07 09:25 From: megad Subject: Re: If it was positioned any lower, it wouldn't properly mee
what is this Mobile Tradition catalogue ? Is it realoem? _________________ 74 2002, 95 M3, 01 X5

Date: 1-12-07 09:28
From: Dirt in VA

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

Senna27 wrote:

I don't think adding a reply & posting a pic requires an apology.

As the starter of this thread, I definitely don't consider it a jacking. You'll have to work harder than that to piss me off. ;)

Pete
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1975 2002: Project Rust Bucket
1990 VW Corrado G60
2003 VW 20th Anniversary GTI

Date: 1-12-07 11:28
From: Delia in "Don't call it 'Frisco'"

Subject: Re: Sorry--the wiper position is correct

Here is a pic of my '74 2002 (#4225509) taken in early 1975. Note the wiper position of the 15" blades.

I have earlier pics taken at the dealer on the day of delivery. Same position.

Mike S is correct about the 13" blades early '67-'69 cars. In fact, I sold a pair of NOS Bosch blades to Mike a couple of years ago.

Cheers!

Delia
_________________
1973 2002tii
Inka (aka "Orange Julius")
VIN 2762756

1974 2002tii - damaged
Polaris (aka "Mae West")
VIN 2782824

BMW CCA member #1974

www.oldschoolbmw.com

deliawolfe@gmail.com

Date: 1-13-07 02:29
From: DB in Oz

Subject: Re: Classic Motorsports: BMW Builds a "New" 2002.

DB wrote:

Bump. Just in case people missed the links to the video.

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