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Date: 10-14-05 10:25
From: TK
Subject: Bilstien HD/Sport question...

Getting ready to buy some, I'm just trying to confirm that the HD's are the less stiffer of the two??

Also, Bavauto is saying that the sports aren't as harsh as they used to be, I'm going to be running them with H&R's, and all new stock rubber bushings, no track use, just street. Would the sports be too stiff??



Date: 10-14-05 10:38
From: c.d.iesel
Subject: Yes, you want HD's..


NOT Sports.

mine with Sports and H&R springys



Date: 10-14-05 10:41
From: Blau02(MN)
Subject: Bavauto is wrong.

Sports are valved differently for the 2002. The specs were just posted on the board this week. If you need to speak with someone who knows someting about these cars, maybe try one of the 2002 specialty shops and pay a few $$ more.



Date: 10-14-05 10:55
From: Tom Winston
Subject: SECOND THAT.... SPEND THE $ With someone who knows what they

are talking about....

Ever since I've started to buy, upgrade & modify my 2002 it seems that I have more returns & credits at BavAuto than actual sales. Many, Many, Many other resources to go to for = or within 5% price.

Support your local brewery!



Date: 10-14-05 11:16
From: Blunt
Subject: "TOO STIFF" is so subjective

i run a j stock e30 as a daily driver and its fine. my buddy has the clone car of mine and he complains and wont drive it except on the track. its what youre willing to put up with. maybe im more tolerant. my 02 will run h&r's,sports and all factory rubber.



Date: 10-14-05 11:24
From: 76BMW
Subject: For everyday drive

I wonder what is wrong with original Boge shocks? I think Germans designed the car for performance and daily with the use of Boge shocks and I think they did it well. I have Blisten shocks and I regret it because it is too stiff for everyday drive, in my opinion. I use the car daily to and from work in ties and dress shirts. I at times was not in mood for stiff and bumpy rides, but it is just my opinion.



Date: 10-14-05 11:28
From: z in Langlois
Subject: too stiff means you piss blood at the end of a drive .. (nt)

(nt)



Date: 10-14-05 11:32
From: matt
Subject: so do you smell like exhaust everyday :) Cool!(nt)

(nt)



Date: 10-14-05 11:57
From: EBruckbauer
Subject: Nice car, some questions...

Is it street legal to have "French" yellow lights? Also where did you get
your additional driving lights? I would like to pick some up...also how
much did they cost?



Date: 10-14-05 12:36
From: TK
Subject: Re: For everyday drive

Have the Boge now, kinda mushy..



Date: 10-14-05 12:41
From: Blau02(MN)
Subject: I've got 25,000 mi on Ireland stage II and Bilstein sports

From the ruttiest rally road to the interstate and the only time it really feels stiff is after driving my old benz.



Date: 10-14-05 12:44
From: Blau02(MN)
Subject: I suspect the OE Boges are NLA.

The boge gas replacement have been sort lived in my experience.



Date: 10-14-05 12:55
From: Doug P.
Subject: Re: Bilstien HD/Sport question...

I drive an E30 everyday with Bilstein Sports and Eibach springs. I'm 47 and have Polymyalgia Ruematica (It makes you hurt all-over) and I'm fine with the setup. Nick's 02 has the same setup and is a little more harsh of a ride, but it's not bad.



Date: 10-14-05 01:28
From: tkent02
Subject: Depends on the condition of your roads, your seats, and your back....

I prefer HDs but I'm an old fart with a lot of hard miles.



Date: 10-14-05 01:52
From: z in Langlois
Subject: similar. ireland stage 1 and HDs on logging roads .. not too stiff!(nt)

(nt)



Date: 10-14-05 02:52
From: BW
Subject: I have sports with ST springs, stock rubber bushings, not too harsh

Stock rubber bushings will ease the ride a bit. Once you get into urethane, the ride tightens up a lot. All personal preference though.



Date: 10-14-05 03:02
From: Jack
Subject: I've got HD's on both of my cars

22/19's, poly, ST's. Nice firm set-up. Handle very well. I got Kormans Roadsport package for both cars. www.kormanfastbmw.com for a write-up on different packages. I've never driven sports so cannot compare.



Date: 10-14-05 03:11
From: John Weese
Subject: Re: Bilstien HD/Sport question...


I've been out of the office all day, so I missed this thread....sorry I did.

FWIW, here's what I "just went through" with Hugo...I have H&R's with Bilstein Sports. I was petrified that the car would ride too stiff!!! Well, it's firm, but just fine, and I'm an old fart with a boney rearend!
:-)

Hugo even has 22/19mm anti-sways (already on the car when I found it).....I know for a fact that the Sports are "shorter" than the Heavy Duties "&" about 20% "stiffer"...you can have them re-valved by Bilstein for a nominal charge if the ride is too stiff.

I really don't understand why some guys put HD's with the shorter springs...I suppose on an '02 they don't bottom out because of the travel, but I was always told to go with the shorter shocks with the lowered springs.

I guess HD would be a bit softer as well, but I'm really happy with the setup I have so far.

Good luck,

John Weese
'72tii "Hugo"



Date: 10-14-05 05:47
From: P
Subject: I kept bottoming out my HD's and new sports are not as harsh as past(nt)

(nt)



Date: 10-14-05 07:00
From: C.D.iesel
Subject: YELLOW track EYES

the french yellow lights are really LUCAS
plastic headlight covers for folks driving their cars
from England to France and conforming to french road rules. They are hated by Connecticut cops.
I install them with double-sided sticky tape to protect my expensive CIBIE' lights while PORSCHE's and M3's toss rocks at me on track. The fog lights are just common HELLA 500 fogs available at lots-0-places.



Date: 10-14-05 08:19
From: cj in the BMW Sauber F1 car View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: Bilstien HD/Sport question...

The dampening rate between the Sports and HD's are now the same. The main diffrence is piston lenth. The sports are shorter to accomodate sport lowering springs. This info is from Bilstein.

Cris
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Date: 10-14-05 08:43
From: peteinjp in Toyama, Japan View user's profile
Subject: Thats a bummer- I liked the stiffer sports (nt)

(nt)



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